much, appreciate your time. as mentioned, ray epps tonight is suing fox news for defamation. well, frankly, over clips just like these. we do know from contemporary news video that a mysterious figure called ray epps encouraged the crowd to go into the capitol. for some reason, epps has never been indicted for that. never been charged, much less imprisoned in solitary confinement, like so many others. why is that? let s stop lying. at this point it s pretty obvious why that is. is it? i want to bring in attorney ken turkell, who arrested clients like hulk hoelg hogan and sarah palin. i m glad you re here. we re talking about the umbrella of defamation. it s not enough to prove that the claims are false. more has to happen when you re talking about figures, and of course fox news. walk me through a little bit what was this has to what you have to prove in a case like this. it s going to be an actual
urging people to go to the capitol. he was seen at the site of the first breach. there s a famous video of him saying something, we can t hear it, to someone else at the breach. he was on capitol ground. the conspiracy theory is because he wasn t arrested, he was probably a fed, an undercover fbi, something or other. there are a lot of holes in this. first of all, i think the onus is on people to prove the theory. second, a whole lot of people on capitol grounds but did not commit violence weren t arrested. weren t arrested. mr. neils suggested that was rare and unusual? it s not. it is the norm. second of all, in this defamation lawsuit today, mr. epps lawyer said they written formed in may by federal authorities that they did plan to pursue criminal charges against him. whether or not that happens, it hasn t happened yet, but i think that would undercut this claim that they re giving him special treatment because he was somehow a fed. of course, that s being responded to as we
but mr. epps, as you said, is an arizona man. he s seen in videos on january 5th injury sixth, again, urging people to go to the capitol. he was seen on the side of the first breach. there was a famous video of him saying something, we can t hear to someone else, at the breed. he was on capitol grounds. and conspiracy theory is that because he was not arrested, he was probably a fed, he was an undercover fbi something or other. there are a lot of holes in this. first of all, again, i think the onus is on people to prove the theory. second of all, a whole lot of people who went on capitol grounds but did not commit violence or weren t arrested. they were arrested. so, mr. troy nehls suggested here, that was rare an unusual. it s not in fact, in fact, that is the norm. second of all, in this defamation lawsuit today, mr. epps said they weren t informed. they were informed in made by federal authorities that they did plan to pursue criminal charges against him. now, whether not that