the new york times, were deeply suspicious of what we now describe as a deep state. we had james clapper going to congress and lying about surveilling the american people. there is a suspicion of the security services and intelligence agencies. now that they seem to be against rome, we are supposed to believe they are pure than pure. there s no question there are sufficient reasons to think that the establishment thought that the prospect of a trump presidency was unthinkable, unacceptable, and took steps to try to stop it. there s enough suspicion there to think that we really do need a thorough investigation that s equivalent to the investigation and russian meddling, which is really important, to look at the potential of deep state meddling. bret: mara, are you calling it spygate? the president is happy that he has branded something new. he has come up with spygate. he said you are calling it