that s exactly right. in fact our first episodes, which are about two books that deal sexuality. one is david levinson s two boys kissing. that kind of what the books about. and derek congolese boy erased, which is a young man who was sent to conversion therapy. you know what the good thing is? these aren t diatribes. they re not scurried s. they are literature. they are amazing to read. there s great stuff in there and that s the point we re trying to make. it s not what you think it is. these books are not written to make your kids into something. they are just good books. i want to play, so people get a snapshot of these conversations, david lava, fan author of two boys kissing, which has attracted a lot of attention a number of places, you got to talk with him in the podcast. here s a little bit of the conversation between you and he. i think my book hits the list because it s called two boys kissing. it shows two boys kissing on the cover.