we are not diminishing the suffering that the poor people have. i rode around south carolina interestingly enough a couple of months ago and you are look at shotgun houses and people living in dea lap dated. inside they probably have a few modern conveniences but there is no day at the beach. there is almost always a reason attached to poverty. it is not the capitalist system s fault. it is usually personal responsibility or something like that. i think, bill, it goes to personal responsibility. it also goes to a free enterprise capitalist system that right now is under assault. it is under assault. bill: absolutely assault. from its own leadership or from this president, this administration. and we have to come to terms with a reality that if we will inspire those who are small business men and women, the innovators in our society, we are going to start moving this economy forward. that is true but the poverty
bill: i want the government, not this government. i want the government to have enough money to protect us and build decent roads and do those things. your point about the underground economy here is interesting and i think that it has great merit in that people aren t focusing on the fact that we have over a trillion dollars in the so called underground economy. bill: you bet. and as we look at all of the issues that surround that, tax is one of them. illegal immigration. unemployment itself is hard to measure because a lot of the folks who are quote unquote underemployed are also being paid off the books. you can t get a compete handle on t but this is a bad economy. get back to the poverty issue. we are not diminishing the suffering that the poor people have. i rode around south carolina interestingly enough a couple of months ago and you are look at shotgun houses and people living in dea lap dated. inside they probably have a few