didn t just throw the book, she threw the library. that is how complete fanni is, ms. willis is, when it comes to her pursuits and pleading her case. clark cunningham, there s an enormous amount of evidence that a jury will hear here. one of the most high profile pieces of evidence is the phone call on january 2nd from trump to brad raffensperger, telling him to find the votes, one more than they lost by, to find the votes necessary to overturn the election. legally, what do trump s words on that phone call prove? well, the former president insists on calling it a perfect phone call. i don t know why he keeps doing that. i m sure his lawyers don t think it s a perfect phone call. i ve said before, i think it s perfectly incriminating. it was that phone call that got district attorney willis to start the investigative process.
what, we were with donald trump wants. maybe even twice. but i m just exhausted. i m exhausted of all the chaos that swirls around this guy. and so, maybe it s time to give someone with a clean slate a chance, if we want to take out president biden. this is. no, go ahead mo. in terms of democrats, this they need to actually do the thing. the department of justice is going to handle the legal part of it. democrats, i think, need to stand strong in favor of democracy. and i think that is appealing not just to the democratic base, but also to a lot of independents in a general election who rejected a lot of republicans in the 2022. in the 2022. because of crazy conspiracy theories and january 6th. they are gearing up to do that again. i think democrats can keep doing what they are doing. and let trump do trump. so this, this is a completely random example. but i remember in 2020, early
iowa. rebuking his former boss and rrt frrunner, do trump president trump s words were reckless. reporter: pence cited january 6 and how trump pressured him to overturn the 2020 election. and i hope mike is going to do the right thing. i hope so. anyone who asks someone else to put them over the constitution should never be president of the united states again. reporter: pence s refusal to do trump s bidding that they made him a target of the former president loyal base, and the path to the nomination all the more difficult. president trump also demanded that i choose between him and the constitution. now, voters will be faced with the same choice. reporter: with roughly a dozen candidates in the race and pence polling in the single digits, he is counting on a strong showing in the iowa caucuses. appealing to the states evangelical voters, many of whom oppose abortion rights, he knocked trump again. sanctity of life has been our party s calling for a century.
trump did. so the challenge around th for governor desantis like the challenge for every other republican gettingntis as into thisican b race, is that if the republicanh base has the choicoicee between the oji america first candidate trump and somebody else, they are going to go with theo h oggi. they re going to gald o with do trump . i also think, laura , thattrumpa donald trump has something that no other candidate canem establish, which is an emotional bond with the voters,. not political or intellectual, emotional. and thatvery tough is very toug to overcome. al and electability has always been b, as i said , desantis i sales pitch, but is that argument losing any credibility? because in the five thirty eight in rcy becap, avere is now governor for the twentyaf twenty four nominating contestoi . the closest to santos ha s been to trump, has been in the double digits. now in this recurring gap,ey they write undercuts desantis message that h e can win.t gove burnt governor , isn t i
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