she s unwavering in her support of david. ten years earlier, judy met goodell when he briefly dated her daughter. she says when she heard about the murder and his arrest, she had a deep emotional reaction. and it was very perplexing to me. i really did not know why this was happening because i was not close to david, but the end result was, i determined that i was meant to get in contact with him, which is what i did. at first, judy just wrote to goodell. then she began to visit. my daughter is not in any way, shape, or form approving of my relationship with david. it has caused much discourse between us. i know what he did. i don t condone it. i don t accept it. it s just part of him that i don t know. david and i have a connection. i don t know how it got there. i can t begin to explain it. but there is a spiritual connection between david and i.
shoot at the bergen county jail in hackensack, new jersey, david goodell was considered a dangerous and manipulative inmate. the only time he seemed to show any regret over killing his 21-year-old former girlfriend, vivianna tulli is when he was meeting with the case manager to prepare for his sentencing hearing in which he was facing anywhere from 30 to 45 years in prison. you know, i m sorry for what i did. but even then, he admitted, it was all for show. so that s what i m going to tell them. because my plea is open from 30 to 45. so if there s any type of way i can weasel my way out of a year or two, it s worth it. and if it doesn t work out, i tried. then we met someone else with an entirely different opinion of david goodell. judy, who asked that we not use her last name, is the mother of a woman goodell used to date and a frequent visitor. i have sort of become his advocate/surrogate mother and i m here to visit him.
it s driving me nuts. ryan miller was later found guilty and sentenced to 37 years to life. deanna turner returned to prison for seven months for her probation violation and was then released. 2 1/2 years after our final shoot with turner, she was out of prison and told us her relationship with miller was continuing and that they planned to marry. coming up yeah, nobody understands nobody. whatever. and they never will. and that s okay. the woman who made a special connection with david goodell. and the dog who made a special connection with our production team. liberty mutual stood with me
the irony is dennis hall took a life and that, in fact, saved his life. because he went to jail and was able to receive medical care. maybe it did save my life coming to jail. we ll see. in hackensack, new jersey, the story of another convicted murderer would also take some unexpected turns. they re the kind we find more often in jail than in prison. one of the reasons i really love lockup, shooting inside county jails, is because everybody s local. the inmates, even a lot of the staff come from the same city. as opposed to a state prison where inmates come from all over the state. and it s amazing how many times inside county jails we find inmates have crossed paths with each other on the outside. and that could lead to some pretty compelling stories on the inside. and david goodell was no exception.
there for me. yet. if something changed in her life and she was unable to maintain this relationship, would it be a betrayal to you? no. i mean, whatever she does, i would trust that she does for a good reason. she s never shown me anything different and there s a different set of rules for people that are in the street and there s good law-abiding citizens. that s got like some old lady that witnesses a crime outside her window, she s not like, kill snitches, this, that. whatever. she s not part of this lifestyle, so that doesn t apply to her. but somebody else that s in that life and knows about that life and know what they re into, it s a whole different set of rules. i truly believe that i will be here with david in some way until the day i die. all right. you going to call my later? yeah. and i guess i won t see you until next week. all right. all right. bye-bye. bye. do you love david?