need to fightr the real enemy . new york city s relentless rat population. does that sound like a plan for success? we thought we would check with the experts. dave shoki. jim shoki would know. they are twins. they re professional rat catchers. catchers. twin home their business is called twin home experts. and we are honored to have them on the show tonight. than k you both. i m going to pick at random, jim , will this work? yes. i mean, when it comes to ratting and exterminating rats, tucker, it s you ve got to start somewhere. but what s going to be crucialer is that you ve got to be two steps ahead of these rats. m likemake one move.ov it s like a plane, a game of chess. the strategy has to continuestre to move in a positiveso direction., so, yes,taking taking all the th off the sidewalks, the streets, because when it comecomes to ra they love that food and water source. d wate so, dave, let me ask y, your brother s use the term ratterou. the for centuries, europeans use terriers,