where he s refused to cooperate with the committee. he s defied that congressional subpoena. it s still being worked out what s happening with mark meadows and kash patel and scan scavino, the other top officials that were inside the white house on that day and this is happening on a voluntary basis. i think when you talk to people there s a range of reasons for why they would like to go and sit down. of course, this has been a big concern from some of the former staffers about what they can be legally compelled to do. would there also be a subpoena for them and some of them clearly just want to share information about what they know that day so it is significant that five of the former trump administration staffers have gone in to speak to the january 6th committee. kaitlan, stand bit. let me bring in to share their own reporting and insight, cnn s dana park and the wall street journal s party and it s significant for a number of reasons. it s harder for someone else to say no. if