case? they are moving in that direction at the moment. we saw last night the committee take their most recent definitive step forward, moving to hold scan scavino and peter navarro, two close former aides to the president, in criminal contempt. that will get a full vote in the house before being referred to the justice department which will have to decide whether they re going to pick it up for prosecution but there are a bunch of loose ends the committee has to deal with before moving to the public phase of the hearings. as liz cheney told me last night there is still a lot of work to be done despite public hearings scheduled to start in one or two months. that includes people like ivanka trump, congressman scott perry, jim jordan, house minority leader kevin mccarthy. jared kushner is appearing on thursday. now jenny thomas is another moving piece of the puzzle. so there are some really key people including mark meadows as
where he s refused to cooperate with the committee. he s defied that congressional subpoena. it s still being worked out what s happening with mark meadows and kash patel and scan scavino, the other top officials that were inside the white house on that day and this is happening on a voluntary basis. i think when you talk to people there s a range of reasons for why they would like to go and sit down. of course, this has been a big concern from some of the former staffers about what they can be legally compelled to do. would there also be a subpoena for them and some of them clearly just want to share information about what they know that day so it is significant that five of the former trump administration staffers have gone in to speak to the january 6th committee. kaitlan, stand bit. let me bring in to share their own reporting and insight, cnn s dana park and the wall street journal s party and it s significant for a number of reasons. it s harder for someone else to say no. if
and they re trying to gather other witness testimony that could box people in if and when they finally do get people to speak. do they have documentation? have they gone to the national park dives? have they gone to the justice department to gather records that they can ask about and say why did you send this email? why did you do this? why was this meeting on your calendar? so they are trying to get together information so that they can ask pointed questions of witnesses not just these four, but of any witnesses because you re right, it s very unlikely that scan scavino or mark meadows would just sit down in a chair and start talking but it s also very unlikely that most people would do that. also keep in mind the justice department has waived executive privilege on a lot of these issues for other former justice department officials, we can expect the justice department would probably do the same for these folks so they wouldn t be able to hide behind executive privilege. simply getti
in this case is the freedom caucus. they normally vote as a block and the president is calling they will out. the freedom caucus will hurt the entire agenda if they don t get on the team. we must fight them. scan scavino just tweeted this today. trump s train defeat him in cre crimea. ted cr chip roy is joining us now. it is seem unusual to say the least for the president to call members of his own party to loose, could it work? well, i think the president is right to be frustrated. he s right and he s been calling obamacare a mess for a long time. the problem is the mess that he inherited is not just the