trump has been able to keep people, through fear, or through loyalty or through hope they can serve in a future trump administration how much he has been successful in keeping some of these witnesses from coming in and testifying. we don t know the answer to that yet. i fear that those closest to him will not have cooperated. but, remember, if you have a bunch of people in a room who have witnessed trump s behavior you don t have to talk to every one of those people to find out what happened. you have to talk to one, two, or a small handful. hopefully that s what the committee has been able to do. let me ask you a follow-up, mark miller. mark meadows turned over according to liz cheney today thousands of documents including what amounts to one of the coup plots. mark short, there wasn t anybody above him on pence s staff. you do have i guess dan mcgahn served in this funk in the mueller investigation. but i don t know there has been an examination of trump s inner circle that inc
washington week . tonight with you at 8:00 p.m., i ve got a hot date. i hope you ll be watching. they just laid it out. this doesn t help in the short term. what if there is no long term? bannon running the clock, waiting for the midterms, hoping republicans win, and then this whole committee could be, proof, gone. well, steph, to the extent there s any good news, bannon will not be able to run the clock the way a dan mcgahn was able to run the clock because we need to recognize the difference between civil litigation, which is what don mcgahn was involved in, and he successfully, you know, weaponized the delay more than two years before he negotiated his own favorable terms of appearing before congress. what will happen to bannon now is congress will refer him for criminal contempt, for a criminal prosecution, and the federal law says once that referral is made, the u.s. attorney for the district of columbia shall present the case to the grand jury for its action. if the grand ju
council don mcgahn and his wife. now underscoring what an e extraordinary request that is, mcgahn was the top lawyer for the white house, and that means the justice department had to go back to court repeatedly to keep this under wrapped. now at this point cnn does not know if mcgahn was targeted individually, as a target of an investigation or he was swept up into an investigation into somebody else. now a source familiar tells cnn that former attorney, jeff sessions, who was leading the justice department at that time and his deputy, rod rosenstein, were unaware of the request for don mcgahn s records. something about that does not add up, and how would it be possible the two top officials did not know the department was making such an extraordinary
request. a few weeks before the request was made, the president pressured don mcgahn to fire mue mueller, and mcgahn resisted and that was at the core of the investigation into former president trump. former special security spoke to jim acosta about all of this on sunday. here s his take. i am prepared to believe the worst. i think we are what does that mean, the worst? that trump would attempt to do things for political purposes and subvert the court of justice. now many are calling to hear from attorney general, jeff sessions and rod rosenstein and even want to hear from former attorney general bill barr and the head of the national security decision, john demers.