time. i want to thank each of the panelists and all of you, too for your questions and comments it s been an illuminating session. many thanks. [applause] [inaudible conversations] now from this conference call hosted by the american bar association, the university of arizona rehnquist center and the arizona state university cronkite school of journalism. u.s. district court judge vaughn walker presents the history of cameras in the courtroom. last august judge walker ruled california s proposition 8 ban on the same-sex marriage was unconstitutional. this is 40 minutes. if you could take your seats i think we are ready to get started. before the third panel this afternoon, we are going to have life untold is an extremely interesting and entertaining presentation on cameras in the courtroom. and it s going to be presented by judge vaughn walker of the u.s. district court for the northern district of california. [applause] thank you, sally. following the justice o conno