cyberspace, when would you see them doing it? would it be if we get into conflict with iran? does it have to be direct conflict with china, for example, to see that type of activity? well, i think china s already active against us, especially in cyber espionage and preparations for cyber warfare. but i think when china s vital national interests are at stake, they will act. i mean, we ve had a lot of challenges from china in the south china sea, for instance. you know, they claim this as, basically, a chinese lake. we see it as open ocean. so there s possibilities of conflict over taiwan, there s a whole host of things. i don t necessarily believe, jenna, specific to your question that they would, you know, attack us if we got into a fight with iran over its nuclear program. they re a partner of iran, but i wouldn t say they re a capital a ally. but you don t really know. you have to think about what the chinese are doing. the threat comes from two things. one is capabilities, we kno
people, killing a corrections officer. police will not say if person in custody is a suspect. jenna: well, a new warning that china s military is targeting america and that we re just grossly underprepared for what s to come. congress is taking up this issue of cyber warfare today, an advisory panel is warning the attacks could target our power grid, our telecommunications, our military command centers, and the panel says china is preparing for this each and every day. and while we know it s coming, we don t have a standard policy on what we do when it does. peter brooks is a senior fellow for national security affairs at the heritage foundation and, peter, we mentioned a few things there; telecommunications, military command. if we have a cyber attack and it effects a hospital or if it effects busy streets, we re talking about a loss of life. how serious could this potentially be? well, jenna, we actually know that the russians and chinese
time we get our hands around this because we have major challenges ahead of us. you could have a terrorist attack, cyber espionage going on against the government as well as the private sector. some of our most valuable intellectual property s being stolen. there s concerns about the supply chain. a lot of telecommunications equipment comes from overseas including places like china. and then, of course, you have the issue of cyber warfare. there s a lot we need to get around. it s a major threat, it s the cutting edge of asymmetric warfare threat to our national security, and we need to take it seriously. jenna: you give us a lot to think about. certain lawmakers want more information from private companies and the companies and oh lawmakers say, listen, that s our property. we can t actually share that. so the private and public conflict is something that s really at center stage here. peter or, thank you so much for talking with us today. thanks for having me. jon: the irony is the