disinformation with president volodymyr zelenskyy and other high-rafrging officials successfully calling on tech companies to challenge and to minimize, at least, russia s cyber propaganda. to talk about this and more with moira, the director of technology with the nonprofit national institute. thank you for coming over. thank you for having me. you say in ukraine we ve seen the rules of conflict changing. in what ways? we re really seeing the internet be a front in this war and ukraine is really stepping up and showing us something brand new we haven t seen. we ve come a long way from 2014 when we talked about little green men to really looking at the internet as a place where we can that can press their advantage, where they can mobilize both europe, a lot of european governments, the united states as well as tech companies to help them get their message out and communicate what s actually happening inside of the country. what s an example of disinformation pushed by russia