to agree on that, yes. >> can i ask you about something four years ago, the last time you were on the show. i think i know what you did. you came on "reliable sources," this was like three weeks into the trump presidency. trump was brand new and people were saying that he hated the media and the media hated him. you came on and called me ridiculous and bashed the media. and then the next day trump called you and you chatted for half an hour and you were all friendly and he said come on, visit the white house, come hang out with me in the white house. is that how you got access, by coming on cnn and making fun of us? i'm just curious. >> no. i mean my agreement to go into the white house predated that. >> oh. trump did call you the next day and thanked you. >> he did. he did. and that's what trump does. he has spent most of his administration seeing people on television and immediately calling them. >> but maybe that's how it works sometimes, huh? is that how it works? that's how you got access?