label that a cut in medicare. i know what you re talking about. but this is a cut. this is not me. this is the committee for responsible federal budget, bipartisan again, looking at how this would work with the increase in health care costs that go up year by year over the next decade, they say this would amount to a $575 billion cut. the reason i ask you is because back in 2014 under the obama administration you called obamacare s $300 billion cut to medicare advantage, quote, the white house cuts are, quote, unfair and further jeopardize access. i m wondering if you feel the same this time around? i do feel the same in regards to reforming, reducing costs in medicare, getting those if you want to call them cuts, we ll call them cuts but from my perspective it s about delivering a new system under medicare that s going to cut costs.
president on this one? i think any president would be using that authority and has used that authority way to beyond the checks and balances of the constitution. we have an institutional problem in congress and congress has delegated that authority away to the president. we need to claw that back. let s talk about the budget. some bullet points from the trump 2020 budget proposal. it shows where the priorities of the administration are. you ve got this $8.6 billion request on the wall, you ve got a 5% increase in defense spending but big cuts to medicare and medicaid. the president said i was the first gop candidate who stated there would be no cuts to medicare and medicaid. did he mislead the american people? no. what the budget is proposing is
getting costs under control in medical medicare and medicaid. i totally think this has to be a conversation. i think every american does. they see what s going on with our out of control debt and deficits. however, when you look at this budget, even the very bipartisan committee for a responsible budget says this trump 2020 budget cuts medicare spending by $575 because of the way it goes into those block grants for the states. do you support those cuts? yeah because i m about reforming medicare. i think we have to get medicare reformed in order to safe it and get health care costs down. how they re doing those cuts is reigning in costs. think about how d.c. operates. when you reign in health care costs under medicare, people
do you think that s a real threat? that s a possible threat. you remember, we re piling this on top of the already cut taxes for high-income people, big corporations, by almost $2 trillion. so you re going to get we re going to get some extra juice in a very hypocritical way. they attacked obama for doing far smaller, at a time when we really needed it. but i think if you look at the budget document that the president put out today, you re going to be incensed. america is going to see what he proposed. at the same time, there are these massive spending and they used up as much revenue as they did on the tax cut. it cuts medicare by hundreds of billions of dollars, proposes a cut in medicare. it goes back and funds those things in obamacare that donald trump ran on campaigning against, saying they were bailouts for insurance companies. he proposes fully funding that stuff.
budget document that the president put out today, you re going to be incensed. america is going to see what he proposed. at the same time, there are these massive spending and they used up as much revenue as they did on the tax cut. it cuts medicare by hundreds of billions of dollars, proposes a cut in medicare. it goes back and funds those things in obamacare that donald trump ran on campaigning against, saying they were bailouts for insurance companies. he proposes fully funding that stuff. and the infrastructure, which was supposed to be the crown bipartisan jewel, is a net cut of federal spending on infrastructure. it s turning it over to the states. asking them to pay for it. let s see the response. a couple of things. first of all, for austin to talk about the debt, you know with all due respect, austin, you worked for the president who took our debt from $10 trillion to $20 trillion.