label that a cut in medicare. >> i know what you're talking about. but this is a cut. this is not me. this is the committee for responsible federal budget, bipartisan again, looking at how this would work with the increase in health care costs that go up year by year over the next decade, they say this would amount to a $575 billion cut. the reason i ask you is because back in 2014 under the obama administration you called obamacare's $300 billion cut to medicare advantage, quote, the white house cuts are, quote, unfair and further jeopardize access. i'm wondering if you feel the same this time around? >> i do feel the same in regards to reforming, reducing costs in medicare, getting those -- if you want to call them cuts, we'll call them cuts but from my perspective it's about delivering a new system under medicare that's going to cut costs.