[indistinct conversation] if you could take your seats. All right, imp carmichael, a member of the History Department at the gettysburg college. It is my pleasure to welcome t. J. Stiles to cwi. He is an awardwinning author based out of berkeley, california. He is a native out of minnesota, a graduate of Carleton College who went on to do his graduate work in european history at columbia. He spent some time at Oxford University press. He worked with gabor. Many volumes that gabor put together, those features were delivered just speeches were delivered right here. Tj have a little bit of time yesterday to talk about his work and talk about the craft of writing, and the conversation reminded me of the fact that there is professional academic writing and there is positive writing. I think the day has come that we can move away from that, and t. J. Stiles has worked to testify to the fact that you can write engaging biography with ideas, with argument, with analysis, and above all else, or