the big reminder here, gates is out there, flynn is out there. mueller was cooperators and documents galore to actually catch anybody in exactly these lies. this is a hearing that he could have won. and we don t have the ruling yet but it sounds like he won t because mueller marshalled chapter and verse to say look at the lies he told. again, it was about kilimnik, as ruined a guy as manafort is, he s still scared, wary, too respectful to cross kilimnik. what that is about what happened before and the exact kind of deal jeremy is talking about is profound. i have to say as the one campaign veteran here, there s no normal reason for an american presidential campaign to give anything to russians or pro-russian people, not even a button. ken dilanian, as you keep skimming, keep your shot up and