you were involved in was a hostage program? i was a crisis negotiator for the parent the umbrella of the emergency operations negotiator team. what did you do? i was crisis negotiator. what does that mean? we would go out with various subjects or a s.w.a.t. team i guess is the easiest way to describe it on warrants. we would respond to calls where there may be people in danger. and was your job to try and negotiate with the subject and get him to submit to being arrested? yes, he or she. was that your main job? no, i was always a patrol officer. no, i mean, as far as a hostage negotiator, that s what you did? yes, i was a crisis negotiator. and what other programs were you in? i was on the law enforcement memorial association honor guard. and what is that?
yes. so you had some experience in stressful situations doing that? no. know you were a crisis negotiator but never experienced a stressful situation? we talked to people. you talked to people in crisis? yes. and part of your job as a police officer is dealing with people on their worst days, right? yes. people who don t want to cooperate with you sometimes, right? most of the people we talk to in crisis are either barricaded behind a door or talking to you from another room? okay. for 26 years you were a patrol overs, right? yes. so you saw people out on the street every day as part of your job duties, fair? yes. and you talked about doing a lot of traffic stops during that career, correct? i did some traffic stops. okay. in some of those cases there are people who have weapons, right?
no. so you were a crisis negotiator but never experienced a stressful situation? we talked to people. talked to people in crisis? yes. and part of your job as a police officer is dealing with people part of your job as a police officer is dealing with people on their worst days. correct? yes. people who don t want to cooperate with you sometimes. correct? most of the people we talk to in crisis are either barricaded behind a door or talking to them from another room. okay. for 26 years you were a patrol officer. correct? yes. so you saw people on the street every day as part of your job duties? yes. and you talked about doing a lot of traffic stops during that career. correct? i did some traffic stops. well, in some of those cases, there are people who have weapons. right? yes. sometimes people want to flee. right? yes. sometimes people are violent
training? yes. and you did all that every year throughout that 26-year period, right? yes. sometimes multiple times a year, right? yes. and all of those requirements were in place to make sure that you continued work at the beginning of your career and continued to be, you know, competent and capable of performing the requirements of the job, right? yes. you mentioned on direct that you were also a hostage negotiator as part of your duties? crisis negotiator. crisis negotiator. did that involve some hostage type of situations? i ve never had a hostage situation. but crisis negotiation? yes. and that involved some de-escalation tactics, i presume, correct? yes. and you had to develop that skill set and be pretty good at de-escalating situations as a crisis negotiator, fair?
no. but you were a crisis negotiator but never experienced a stressful situation? we talked to people. talked to people in crisis. yes. and part of your job as a police officer is dealing with people on their worst days, right? yes. people who don t want to cooperate with you sometimes? right? most of the people we talk to in crisis are either barricaded behind a door or talking to us from another room. ok, for 26 years, you were a patrolling officer, right? yes. you saw people out on the street every day as part of your job duties. yes. and you talked about doing a lot of traffic stops during that career, correct? i did some traffic stops. well, in some of those cases, there are people that have weapons, right? yes. sometimes people want to flee, right? yes. sometimes people are violent.