his book the chief s chief. is there any criminal exposure here for him? right, and by the way, yes, he is the center of the center. he is trump s conduit to all these agencies for all these wacky theories from distortion of u.s. law to possible international conspiracies with china and the like. and you can see now why they didn t want to refer him for criminal contempt. because with bannon, they lose his testimony when he goes over to the other side. with meadows, they really need it. look, he s got a really solid criminal former deputy attorney general counsel. if they do tiptoe to the edge of criminal exposure, he ll certainly refuse on criminal grounds. for now he is sitting for what the committee is calling an initial deposition, so they have in mind more than one, and
house correspondent is reporting there s a possibility that she may quit her job at the state department, she s still employed there, so that she can testify because the white house could block her from testifying. you know what s interesting to me, she possibly has to quit her job to bea able to offer information that she wants to tell congress, that s extraordinary, one, to your point. two, what was interesting in yesterday s indictment that according to the allegations, that both of these men, parness and fruman got direction from on you or more government officials. so the ukrainian government officials are directing this effort to toss the ambassador. i thought that was very interesting yesterday. this is going all the way back to the ukrainian government. to the point dave was making, when you look at the exposure, potential criminal exposure for rudy giuliani, is he doing the bidding here of certain ukrainian government officials that would lead to a violation of the foreign a
obstructed justice, already removed the fbi director james comey, he has tried to fire session, tried to fire robert mueller. he has drafted a statement for his son that was a lie about the trump tower meeting. repeated instances of obstruction of justice. it s a very serious situation. and he had better let it alone. he is getting himself in very hot water. he s already in hot water. he s making it a lot worse. i m amazed that congress doesn t stand up to him. that they don t do anything and all we re hearing about is congressmen running over to great britain to try to cause trouble and obstruct justice over there. a lot of people will end up in jail if they keep behaving this way. you say that, and katty kay, that was the same thing in the nixon administration, when it was all said and done, to richard s point, we don t where this leads, historically that attorney general did end up in jail. there s a question about the long-term criminal exposure of
question is really what information of value does michael cohen have to provide to prosecutors. you know, right now, as far as we understand, the prosecution of him or the investigation of him pertains to things that were spun off of the major russia investigation. so is now being handled by the southern district of new york, maybe into his personal financial dealings. so we don t actually know, one, what potential crimes michael cohen might be charged with and therefore what criminal exposure he has. and two, what information potentially about the president or the trump organization or the trump campaign does michael cohen have that actually would be that much of interest to prosecutors. and laura s absolutely right. the way to go about this if he really wants to cooperate and he really has information of value is to use go through the channel of his attorney to the prosecutors and the investigators. i think we make a mistake
retainer and so on. what s going on here. it leads you down the various paths in terms of which story they re telling. giuliani characterized this payment both as an expense, kind of like maybe you would repay your attorney for velo-bounding brief s or something like that. retainers notwithstanding, repaying porn stars is not something you repay in this nature. it s an outstanding debt over $10,000, so it s required to be reported. in an effort on giuliani s part to exculpate from the sec saying he s not required to report, he s backing hips into a corner and he s opening himself up to a myriad of criminal exposure, not the least of which is an ste f-1 violation. what does that mean for the