that distrust. you hear western officials raising the possibility and kind of leaning into this, this is a general who could have attached to these coup plans. how much of an opportunity is this to sow doubts in vladimir putin s mind? i think that s already happening organically inside of russia. we have to be very careful as to because we re also having to, um the target isn t just putin and the regime, but to be credible to the russian population. if we get over-enthusiastic in trying to involve ourselves in the inner dynamics, that may blow up in our space. i think we support ardently ukrainians, we make it hard for russians to do the irregular stuff they re doing worldwide,
They are accused of planning a coup and to kidnap German Health Minister Karl Lauterbach. Now, five suspected members of a terrorist group linked to the
advanced those coup plans were. militant reichsbuerger are united by the hatred for democracy, for our state and for people who support our community. this is what we know. around 50 people were allegedly part of the group plotting to overthrow the republic and replace it with a new state modelled on the germany of 1871 an empire called the second reich. we re told the group had been allegedly planning a violent coup since november 2021. the police say members of its central rat or council have held since held regular meetings and had already established plans to rule germany, with departments including health and justice. there are two alleged ring leaders. one of them is described as prince heinrich xiii. next, let s hearfrom the prosecutor general. translation: based on the information we have, this group is set up into a kind of council which is supposed to be a kind of government organisation which was split up into different
suspects were also reportly arrested in the austrian town of kitzbuehel as well as the italian city of perugia. germany s interior minister, nancy faeser, told a news conference in berlin that the federal prosecutor was now involved due to the seriousness of the situation. translation: based | on current findings, the suspected terrorist group uncovered today was founded based on coup d etat fantasies and conspiracy ideologies. only a further investigation will give us a clear picture how far advanced those coup plans were. militant reichsburger are united by the hatred for democracy for our state and for people who support our community. dr hans jakob schindler is the senior director of the counter extremism project in berlin. hejoins me now. welcome to the programme. it is credible story. we are told they feed on conspiracy theories, much like you are known in america, could
constitutional remedy and raefring to one of trump s most controversial lawyers, he has really interesting research on this. that is the lawyer that was pushing the coup plans. bob woodward, no knows his way around white house corruption has a report lee was shocked to receive a memo on skraurn 2nd about seven states transmitting duel states of electors. but interesting research back in november. it s up to mike lee to clarify kr he seemed so supportive of going down this road in private. on december 8th, lee also texted chief of staff if a very small handful of states were to have their legislature appoint al tern tichb slates of electors. we are joined we neil to get back into it. thauchks for being here. thank you. i mentioned the two portraits here because it is not news to our viewers, politicians say one thing and do another. but rarely, do you have it so close together.