documentary filmmaker alex holder on what he saw before january 6th, and the threats he faces for cooperating with the committee. all that and stacey abrams on the fight to preserve abortion rights in georgia and beyond, win all in starts right now good evening from new york, i m chris hayes. as we learn more about how bad january 6th was, i am stopped by the persistent suspicion that the party leadership, with some notable exceptions, would you do it all again. they would all support donald trump, all his anti-democratic intentions, his aspirations to be, basically, a fascist authoritarian. and even if he had gotten worse i mean, we got really lucky on january 6th. it could have been a lot worse. even with the mob chanting hang mike pence had made it to mike pence, they would do it again, even if that happened. i think that very strongly. and that s because they made a trade early on. it was a transaction between them and trump. the trade was, they would blindly suppor
rights in georgia and beyond, win all in starts right now good evening from new york, i m chris hayes. as we learn more about how bad january 6th was, i am stopped by the persistent suspicion that the party leadership, with some notable exceptions, would you do it all again. they would all support donald trump, all his anti-democratic intentions, his aspirations to be, basically, a fascist authoritarian. and even if he had gotten worse i mean, we got really lucky on january 6th. it could have been a lot worse. even with the mob chanting hang mike pence had made it to mike pence, they would do it again, even if that happened. i think that very strongly. and that s because they made a trade early on. it was a transaction between them and trump. the trade was, they would blindly support donald trump with all of the dangerous an obvious flaws and all the danger that he would put people in, which he did, of course, in order to have a shot at the super majority on the supreme
terrorists at guantánamo bay, and guantánamo bay detainees, as essentially agents of al-qaeda themselves. that and throwing her on sister underbuduring a failed senate race by coming out against same-sex marriage even as her sister was in one. but for the past year, that ruthlessness has been on display for the right side of history. on the january six committee, it has been put to work on behalf of democracy. after months and months of depositions investigations, the committee, chaired by benny thompson, vice chaired by liz cheney, has marshaled evidence and constructed a compelling narrative and used savvy production techniques to lay out the details of trump s attempted coup on television. and keep in mind and this is important as people think about norms and institutions and if we are too aggressive we are going to further the unwinding of americans democratic structure this committee, justin microcosm itself is the product of some really aggressive norm busting.
as essentially agents of al-qaeda themselves. that and throwing her on sister under the bus during a failed senate race by coming out against same-sex marriage even as her sister was in one. but for the past year, that ruthlessness has been on display for the right side of history. on the january six committee, it has been put to work on behalf of democracy. after months and months of depositions investigations, the committee, chaired by benny thompson, vice chaired by liz cheney, has marshaled evidence and constructed a compelling narrative and used savvy production techniques to lay out the details of trump s attempted coup on television. and keep in mind and this is important as people think about norms and institutions and if we are too aggressive we are going to further the unwinding of americans democratic structure this committee, justin microcosm itself is the product of some really aggressive norm busting. remember, the original plan was
helicopter it s almost impossible for anyone to change the message that he s pushing and he s i think it s more coherent than juan can believe, but here is how this artificial impeachment was set up. three years ago, you see tweets vowing impeachment would happen. you have a tweet admitting that cnn is going to help. schiff coordinates with the whistle-blower who is basically a democratic operative, and value have him saying that republicans, they have to justify the relevance of their witnesses. i remember a very thoughtful see people saying you can t say the word coup on television. they are admitting it s a coup! can i finally say cool now coup now? people in the media are obsessed with what ifs, not what are. my greatest hit. trump should not be punished for