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and they were the scapegoats you could say. jean i know we re learning a little bit more about what s happening to richard matt s body. what is that? reporter: i just got off the phone with the funeral home nearbynear buffalo new york. they confirmed they had the body. they always said that the schedule shows there would be no public or private services for him. but originally the family was not going to claim his body. it would be a county burial right here in the area. but then that turned at the last minute and his body was transported up to buffalo where he originally is from. jean casarez on the story throughout for us. thank you, jean. appreciate it. let s talk more about this investigation and bigger changes that may happen. ed davis is with me the former commissioner of the boston police department. thank you for being with me sir. good morning, poppy.