ambassador to russia, jon huntsman is expected to leave in the weeks ahead. sources say he s been embarking on something of a farewell tour over the past kefseveral weeks having dinners with diplomats as a signal thating the post. president trump and president putin did not discuss names but specifically that they ll have to discuss that vacancy soon. sarah westwood, appreciate the update. thank you. let s talk with cnn counterterrorism analyst phil mudd as a former cia counterterrorism official. phil, good morning. good morning. let s start here. that was five days. from a tweet on sunday to a tweet then on friday morning, or afternoon. in the context of the position, first, what do you make of this turbulence around ratcliff as the nominee as director of
filled with white nationalist messages. here to discuss is darryl johnson. darryl johnson is a former counterterrorism official whose upcoming book is hateland: a long, hard look at america s extremist heart. and max boot is the author of the corrosion of conservatism: why i left the right. thank you both for coming on this evening. max, you re here all the time. of course i m glad you re here. i m doubly glad you re here, darryl johnson, because i have been talking about you and have known about you since 2009, since that report. and i read what you wrote today for the washington post, and i just want to tell people what you did. you warned of the resurgence of right-wing extremists back in 2009 in a leaked report. among the key findings, you wrote this. you said right-wing extremists may be gaining new recruits by playing on their fears about several emergent issues, the economic downturn, the election of the first african-american president, present unique
johnson. he s a former counter terrorism official whose upcoming book is a hate land. max booth is the author of corrosion of the conservatism, why i left the right. thank you both for coming on. max, you re here all the time. i m doubly glad you re here, darryl johnson, because i have been talking about you and have known about you since 2009, since that report. i read what you wrote today for the washington post. i want to tell people what you did. you warned of the resurgence of right wing extremists back in 2009 in a leaked report. among the key findings you wrote this, you said this, right wing extremists may be gaining new recruits by playing on their fears about several emergent issues, the economic downturn, the election of the first african-american president, uniq unique drivers of right wing
have to call upon the politician because the american people need to understand that you take this seriously and this is important to you. we don t see it here when it comes to the bombing. we see them picking and choosing which issues are important to them, as you mention the caravan. it says a lot about their priorities. in the picture we had on the screen there, it s the secretary of homeland security, kristin kne nielsen, and she s at fox news, and she s talking about the border and the caravan. that s the picture the administration wants you to see. it s not a picture of the second of homeland security in new york and washington talking about the bombs. we know from our cnn reporting that a senior counterterrorism official told us despite what the president
study it. i want to talk more about the many roads that could lead investigators to whoever did this. with me right now retired nypd lieutenant darren, he teaches here in the new york area. also joining me is former fbi supervisory special agent, josh campbell. he s cnn law enforcement analyst. and former senior counterterrorism official, phil mudd joins us as well. darren, just from what the fact all of these devices are now in the hand of authorities, there are many potential clues that could be in these devices. absolutely. when we look at these investigations into explosive ordnance, i like to figure it out as a three-legged stool. the first leg of the stool is the actual ordnance, what is the signature connected with this ordnance. here we have a black powder substance. the second leg to the stool a bomb maker often has a signature, a particular way they make a bomb over and over. exactly. this is something law enforcement stores and look to moving forward. the second leg