It was not in any record i july 25th call. And this is consistent with the reported comments from received. But when you did see. Ambassadors volker and taylor. After the zelensky meeting, i yes, i saw that in september, also met with zelenskys senior correct. So on this continuum, the aide, andre yermak. Beginning of the continuum begins on may 23rd when the president instructs you to talk I Dont Recall the specifics of our conversation, but i believe the issue of investigations was to rudy . Correct. And you understood that as a probably a part of that agenda direction by the president that you needed to satisfy the or meeting. Concerns that Rudy Giuliani would express to you about what also, on july 26th, shortly the president wanted in ukraine . After our kiev meetings, i spoke not to me. By phone with President Trump. To the entire group, volker, perry and myself, correct. The white house, which has now, in your opening finally, finally shared certain statement you confirmed that
volker, perry and myself. investigations. this is from mr. yermak to me. and the vice president nodded, like, you know, he heard what i the following day, august 11th, said, and that was pretty much it, as i recall. and this is critical, i sent an and you understood that the email to counselor brechbuhl and ukrainians were going to raise lisa kenna. the security assistance with the vice president at this meeting? lisa kenna was frequently used i didn t know what they were going to raise, but they in fact as the pathway to secretary did raise it, mr. chairman. pompeo, as sometimes he preferred to receive his emails it was public by that point through her. that there was a hold on the she would print them out and put security assistance, correct? them in front of him. yeah, but i didn t know what with the subject ukraine, i they were going to raise. i didn t get a pre-brief from the ukrainians. you knew certainly they were concerned about the hold on the wrote, mike, referring
was ambassador taylor. sondland has associated himself very closely with the testimony of ambassador taylor. the testimony of marie yovanovitch who he also paid tribute to. he is now being challenged by the republican counsel with the testimony of kurt volker so it s just an amazing and it s we should show our own work. we were all prespun before sondland do you remember sondland was one of the first witnesses who pulled a no show. he was supposed to testify on a monday. it was sort of an 8:00 a.m. news blast, won t be there. he showed up that thursday for the deposition. all of the scuttle from people close to this white house, careful what you wish for, sobdz sondland is going to be great for mr. trump. was there an ask for sondland to lie. no one has asked him. counselor? well, we have no evidence that donald trump ever tries to obstruct justice. none. nope? just volume two of the
white house meeting, correct? yes, i believe so. okay, and this is only this is just investigations generally making a public statement of openness generally, right? well, i think by august 11th, mr. castro, i think we were talking about 2016 and burisma. the investigations generally was really early in the do we know that secretary pompeo knows that. i think so. why? only because i think ambassador or i m sorry, counselor brechbuhl was briefed. by who? by you? by ambassador volker, by myself that s not what he testified to. did you ambassador or counselor brechbuhl testified no, ambassador volker. oh, okay. he didn t testify that he briefed mr. brechbuhl. i mean, this email to the secretary is talking about this