It was not in any record i july 25th call. And this is consistent with the reported comments from received. But when you did see. Ambassadors volker and taylor. After the zelensky meeting, i yes, i saw that in september, also met with zelenskys senior correct. So on this continuum, the aide, andre yermak. Beginning of the continuum begins on may 23rd when the president instructs you to talk I Dont Recall the specifics of our conversation, but i believe the issue of investigations was to rudy . Correct. And you understood that as a probably a part of that agenda direction by the president that you needed to satisfy the or meeting. Concerns that Rudy Giuliani would express to you about what also, on july 26th, shortly the president wanted in ukraine . After our kiev meetings, i spoke not to me. By phone with President Trump. To the entire group, volker, perry and myself, correct. The white house, which has now, in your opening finally, finally shared certain statement you confirmed that
the investigation of possibly ukrainian corruption with the investigation of the former vice president. in hindsight i now understand that others saw the idea of investigating possible corruption involving the ukrainian company as equivalent to investigating former vice president biden. not long after that moment, former national security council official tim morrison gave what may be the clearest outline of quid pro quo heard so far. it came during this exchange when morrison was asked to recall a september 1st conversation between u.s. ambassador to the e.u., gordon sondland, and ukraine government official andrei yermak. what did ambassador sondland tell you that he told mr. yermak? that the ukrainians would have to have the prosecutor general make a statement with respect to the investigations as a condition of having the aid lifted. as you may know, this scandal has been branded missiles for
however, i have no recollection you have no reason to believe of discussing vice president that mr. holmes would make that biden or his son on that call or up, if that s what he recalls after the call ended. you saying? you have no reason to question i know that members of this that, do you? i do not recall saying biden. committee frequently frame these i never recall saying biden. complicated issues in the form but the rest of mr. holmes of a simple question, was there recollection is consistent with your own? a quid pro quo. well, i can t testify as to as i testified previously, with what mr. holmes might or might not have heard through the regard to the requested white house call and the white house phone. i don t know how he heard the meeting, the answer is yes. conversation. are you familiar with his testimony? vaguely, yes. and the only exception you mr. giuliani conveyed to take is to the mention of the secretary perry, ambassador name biden? volker and others tha
he ll do whatever you want, means that he would work with us on a whole host of issues. he was not only willing, he was very eager, right? that s fair. because ukraine depends on the united states as its most significant ally, isn t that correct? one of its most, absolutely. so just so we understand, you were in kiev the day after president trump spoke to president zelensky on the phone, and you now know from reading the call record that in that phone call he requested a favor for president zelensky to do investigations related to the bidens and the 2016 election, right? i do now know that, yes. and you met with president zelensky and his aides on the day after that phone call and then you had a conversation with president trump from your cell phone from a restaurant terrace, and he asked you whether president zelensky will do the investigations. and you responded that he s
the openness subject, including went to speak with yermak and you told him similarly that in specifics next week, all of which referred to the 2016 and order to release the military assistance, they were going to the burisma. have to publicly announce these ms. kenna replied, gordon, i ll investigations? yeah, much has been made of that meeting. and it really wasn t a meeting. pass to the secretary, thank what happened was everyone got up after the bilateral meeting you. again, everyone was in the loop. between president zelensky and vice president pence and people get up and mill around and shake curiously, and this was very hands, and i don t know if i interesting to me, on august came over to yermak or he came over to me. but he said, you know, what s going on here, and i said i 26th, shortly before his visit don t know. it might all be tied together to kiev, ambassador bolton s now. you know, i have no idea. i was presuming that it was. but it was a very short office requested mr