Youre the you are the 2 of the key officials with responsibility for ukrainian policy. I mean if the president of states is going to have a call with the leader of ukraine why what why wouldnt you ordinarily be involved with preparation sir we work for the department of state in an embassy overseas and in preparation for a president ial phone call that responsibility lies with and staff of the National Security council normally if there is enough sufficient time National Security staff can solicit information usually from the state department we can draw in the embassy but thats only Background Information and my understanding having never worked at the National Security council is that National Security staff write a memo to the president and none of us see that outside of the National Security staff ok so the the the charge a or the the u. S. Ambassador to the country wouldnt ordinarily be on a call with a foreign leader. Thats correct would not. And did colonel the men or anyone of
President , correct . Its appropriate for the Justice Department and the Prosecutor General to cooperate and to exchange information, yes. But to the extent that the president has concerns and to the extent that the Attorney General is having u. S. Attorney durham look into it, isnt it entirely appropriate for the president to flag this for president zelensky and say that you should be in touch with our official channels . Mr. Castor, i dont know the precise appropriateness of these kind of relations. Now, were you involved, either of you involved with the preparation for the 7 25 call . I was not. I was not. And how do you account for that . I mean, you were the two of the key officials with responsibility for ukrainian policy. If the president of the United States is going to have a call with the leader of the ukraine, why wouldnt
you ordinarily be involved with preparation . Sir, we work for the Department Of State in an embassy overseas and in preparation for a president ial phone
anticorruption agency in ukraine that was called the national anticorruption bureau. there was a different body that reviewed asset declarations for unusual wealth called national anti corruption prevention council. and eventually we got to helping them establish a special anticorruption prosecutor and eventually a high court on anticorruption. and that was to try to create investigators, prosecutors and courts with integrity that couldn t be bought and would be focused on high level corruption. so what i m hearing there, mr. kent, is a very comprehensive effort. so, let me read to you president trump s own words to the ukrainian president in a july 25th phone call. and i quote: there is a lot of talk about biden s son that biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that. so whatever you can do with the attorney general would be great. biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it, it sounds horrible to me. mr. ken