fatih birol, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. every year the world awaits your world energy report, it is hugely influential, and this year it said something very interesting. it predicted that, for the first time, demand forfossilfuels, oil, coal and gas, will peak by 2030 and then start to decline. now, is that based on real evidence or is it your wishful thinking? no, i think it is based on very real evidence. there are two drivers which will end up giving us a different world in 2030 compared to today. the first one is a new clean energy economy is emerging. emerging fast, and faster than many of us realise. let me give you a couple of examples. electric cars. three years ago, only three years ago, 1 out of 25 cars sold in the world was electric. so three years ago, 1 out of 25. this year, 1 out of 5 cars sold is electric. and even with the current conservative policies, 2030, every second car sold in the world will be an electric car. look at the other side. i m going to
fatih birol, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. every year the world awaits your world energy report, it is hugely influential, and this year it said something very interesting. it predicted that, for the first time, demand forfossilfuels, oil, coal and gas, will peak by 2030 and then start to decline. now, is that based on real evidence or is it your wishful thinking? no, i think it is based on very real evidence. there are two drivers which will end up giving us a different world in 2030 compared to today. the first one is a new clean energy economy is emerging. emerging fast, and faster than many of us realise. let me give you a couple of examples. electric cars. three years ago, only three years ago, 1 out of 25 cars sold in the world was electric. so three years ago, 1 out of 25. this year, 1 out of 5 cars sold is electric. and even with the current conservative policies, 2030, every second car sold in the world will be an electric car. look at the other side. i m going to
painted red swastikas on grades in a jewish cemetery. on friday night, right here on this show, we interviewed congressman adam smith, whose home was marred by pro-palestinian vandals. now, peaceful protest, even passionate protest is an american right. but, smith told us that he sees an overlap between these tactics and that of another group. these are the same tactics that we saw in that most extreme form on january 6th. it is these tactics that are not accidental. they are an attempt to intimidate people into silence, an attempt to overthrow democratic norms. today, there is outrage in some corners of the democratic party, because what some on the left will not to do without hesitation, apparently. that is, condemn hamas. without them, immediately mentioning israel. listen to this exchange, for example. this sunday between cnn s dana bash and pramila jayapal. have you talked about it since october 7th? absolutely, and i ve condemned what hamas has done, i ve cond
fatih birol, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. every year the world awaits your world energy report, it is hugely influential, and this year it said something very interesting. it predicted that, for the first time, demand forfossilfuels, oil, coal and gas, will peak by 2030 and then start to decline. now, is that based on real evidence or is it your wishful thinking? no, i think it is based on very real evidence. there are two drivers which will end up giving us a different world in 2030 compared to today. the first one is. ..a new clean energy economy is emerging. emerging fast, and faster than many of us realise. let me give you a couple of examples. electric cars. three years ago, only three years ago, 1 out of 25 cars sold in the world was electric. so three years ago, 1 out of 25. this year, 1 out of 5 cars sold is electric. and even with the current conservative policies, 2030, every second car sold in the world will be an electric car. look at the other side. i m going
fatih birol, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. every year the world awaits your world energy report, it is hugely influential, and this year it said something very interesting. it predicted that, for the first time, demand forfossilfuels, oil, coal and gas, will peak by 2030 and then start to decline. now, is that based on real evidence or is it your wishful thinking? no, i think it is based on very real evidence. there are two drivers which will end up giving us a different world in 2030 compared to today. the first one is a new clean energy economy is emerging. emerging fast, and faster than many of us realise. let me give you a couple of examples. electric cars. three years ago, only three years ago, 1 out of 25 cars sold in the world was electric. so three years ago, 1 out of 25. this year, 1 out of 5 cars sold is electric. and even with the current conservative policies, 2030, every second car sold in the world will be an electric car. look at the other side. i m going to