i want to ask you a question and i understand the sensitivities to evidence. but even this week in the contempt referral for mr. navorro what was presented by the commit tee is evidence that you have much of the navorro story and the defiance of the subpoena is more than a stunt and less than a fult blockade of information. he did an interview with ari melber. my question is, how complete is the story telling that you are in possession of now? what i would say is that for everyone the committee approached it is best to get the information directly from that person and people have made public statements. part of the argument is how can he claim privilege about something that he s gone on
0 that is all in on this wednesday night. the rachel maddow show is with what alex wagner, good evening alex. good evening, chris. my kids would bang on pots and pans after the start of the pandemic. ns after the start of th pandemic of the pandemic. it was very special and it felt like being something special across distance and it inspired things and i look back now and it we are a long way from that moment, my friend. thank you as always. and thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. on december 1st of 2020 a few weeks after the presidential election,fe a republican state representative in michigan got a very odd voice mail message. wery played a recording of this voice mail message on the show before. it was obtained by a small news service called the michigan information anded research service. but now, in light of new developments, this voice mail has taken on even more significance. hi, representative, my name is angela mccalum, i m calling from trump campaig
anything that we come upon as a committee that we think would warrant a referral to the department of justice, we ll do that. luke, what is your sort of sense of where this stands among the committee members and their staffs. right. so the committee is, i would say, wrestling right now with whether a contempt referral could be made for donald trump s inaction on january 6th. normally, omissions of action are not crimes. so you are hearing them say things like, you know, we are trying to figure out whether there is a statute that can apply to this. you hear liz cheney talk about dereliction of duty. we know this obstruction of congress has been charged on 200 rioters. but donald trump didn t go into the building himself. they need to be able to connect him in a concrete way that will
went on to cite judicial precedence. the committee took responsibility for the misplaced period. one-time provider to the trump campaign sent the message to jordan who then passed it on to meadows. joining us now, congressman jake auchincloss of massachusetts. how you do think the justice department will respond to congress s latest contempt referral? alexander hamilton would be appalled by my colleague s text message and his lack of understanding not just of the constitution but of the importance of a free and fair transfer of power. the losers respecting the results of an election is the very bedrock of our democracy, and we have seen over the last year that there s an
they ll consider whether to release these names. they wanted to get the context out before releasing the names. definitely, though, some more potential news to come out of this committee related to these messages. manu, two republicans, liz cheney and adam kinzinger, both members of the january 6th committee, voted for this meadows contempt resolution along with democrats. seven had vote forward steve bannon s referral. neither number particularly large, but did they explain their differences between one vote and the other? we heard very little from those members but we do a lot of them were siding with their former colleague and indicated this was different than what happened with steve bannon. of course, bannon at the time was not a member of the administration. mike meadows and january 6th was the white house chief of staff. but the republican leadership made clear they wanted all of their members on the house side to vote no. they recommended a no vote. just two, kinzinger an