and benefits the prosecutors have to think through. does it make more sense to go to trial and run the risk of losing and spend the resources or guarantee that you get a conviction and someone going to jail? it sounds sort of odd to the layperson. it sounds like prosecutors kind of blinked. they decided, well, we d rather get the conviction than than nothing, or maybe lose because so much of what would have been on trial here is subjective. now, some of it, you know, there would be financial statements and records and so on. but this question, this is what kara was talking about a little earlier. when we re talking about compensation or tuition being paid, there s a question, well, maybe this might have been actually part of his compensation package. a jury could have been tricked by that or at least been confused enough by it to not get a conviction. rudy giuliani testified before a grand jury in georgia. the fact that he has been informed he s a target of this investigation,
rudy giuliani publicly. maybe he thought he might have been able to save himself by talking. if his lawyers were smart, they probably advised him to just keep his mouth shut because of the tremendous risk of jeopardizing his own rights if he does ultimately get charged with a crime. so he could have just pled the fifth during this? yeah, and oddly enough that can take five or six hours because every question other than, you know, what s your name, rudy giuliani like so for instance, how long has you served as donald trump s lawyer? i plead the fifth because that could come up in a conspiracy trial. every possible fact. so hour after hour. proper again, it seems odd, and it can take an entire day of doing that. we saw that with the president quite recently. there is a federal hearing tomorrow in florida regarding the unsealing of the affidavit that was used to get the search warrant of mar-a-lago. we should point out cnn and other news organizations have been pushing to try to g
is that still ongoing? well, it s still ongoing, but as you probably remember, the previous district attorney, cy vance, had authorized his prosecutors to move forward with an indictment or to seek an indictment before the grand jury against the former president. the new district attorney, alvin bragg, came in, reviewed the evidence and said he didn t think there was enough there. one of the issues is they didn t have a cooperator, someone like weisselberg who was willing to tell the story behind the numbers. that investigation has slowed down. sources tell me it s still ongoing, but there remains a lot of questions of what could they get that would satisfy the new d.a. that they have enough to bring an indictment when they didn t after already more than three years of investigating. kara scannell, appreciate it. joining me now, elliot williams. why would they do a plea agreement with this guy if he wasn t going to cooperate in any criminal trial? believe it or not, anderson, goi
company apartment, car leases. so the trump organization would pay his car lease, would pay school tuition for his grandkids or things like that? exactly. and then he wasn t paying income tax on that. so he s going to admit to all of this tomorrow according to sources. he will plead guilty to the entire indictment, and he will he s agreed to testify at trial. the trump organization, the corporate entity, no individual, is going to trial in october on these charges. now, they have had testimony from other people. they ve had an accountant who was worked with the trump organization who has testified before the grand jury. but this will be a live witness. it will be allen weisselberg, the longtime cfo. he s been with the company for 40 years, going to testify against the company if it gets to trial. is it just testifying in this particular scheme against the company, or the company and other things they may have been involved with? well, that s the thing here. this is just for h
former deputy assistant cnn legal analyst, elliott williams. why would they do a plea agreement with this guy if he wasn t going to cooperate in any criminal trial? believe it or not, anderson, going to trial is really just a matter of resources and cost and benefits. the prosecutors have to think through and does it make more sense to go to trial and run the risk of losing, and spend the resources of your time, your energy, your prosecutors? or guarantee that you get a conviction of someone going to jail. it sounds sort of odd, you know it sounds like prosecutors kind of linked. they decided, well, we would rather get the conviction than nothing and lose, maybe lose, because so much of what would ve been on trial here is subjective. now, some of, it you know, there would be financial statements and records, so on, but this question, this is what s current was talking about a little bit earlier. when we are talking about compensation or tuition being paid, there is a ques