time for his party to stop, quote, being the stupid party. ed he urges the republicans to reject intellectualism. except jindal is teaching creationism in his public schools. the fiscal cliff, how much room is the left willing to give president obama on entitlement reform? what is the breaking point? on issues like social security and medicare? the president may have found out today when he met with them, labor and progressive leaders. we ll talk to one of the people in that room. fascinating stuff coming up here. yes, people are looking forward to 2016, and the name on everybody s list and lips is hillary clinton. the nomination will be hers if she wants it. who doesn t know that? finally, think we re all coming together after the election? not in texas where 60,000 people have signed a petition to secede from the union. what else is new? one gop official down there even wrote a column asking for an amicable divorce from what he called the maggots who elected president obama. th
i think that there s a in any way. i m pro-science, i think we need to be credible reform party, you should embrace climate change and propose solutions to them. there s no question about that. but, you know, i think there is going to be this is where some of the cleavages will come among various strains of reformism. howard pointed to one, the question of immigration. some like jeb bush will be on the relatively liberal side of creationism. maybe bobby engine dal will be on creationism. because he himself is minority, he almost visually carries an inclusiveness that some of the more white, standard brand caucasian republicans don t carry. he can probably get away with being more conservative on the immigration front, but there are these strains within the party that all these guys will be trying to figure out how to work around. and a guy like bobby jindal, health care policy is his specialty, he s a guy of science. yet you point out correctly that right now at least so far, he s
chris, you put your finger right on the button. there is going to be a place in the republican party for an outsider who is going to be not washington figures, particularly those who come from places where the republican party is still strong, people in the south, so you think about people like jeb bush, people like bobby jindal who will bring a message of reform, and it s not surprising on some level that the economics will be central. they need to be. there s a big strain of southern pop list in the conservativism party. jindal is a harvard educated policy wonk on things like health care reform. he s an interesting marriage. he s not that different in that respect in this mix of southern elite schooling and populist instincts to bill clinton back when he brought his project of southern populist moderation to the democratic project back in 1989, 1990, 1991. so there s a road map here, and bobby jindal i think is the first one to jump on it, but he won t be the last. but the thing is
seen typically candidates run and run very successfully. kiki, the only challenge facing here is the tendency of the united states voters in general elections not to like to see one party stay in office too long. eight years is often like the terminal date, but there are sepgss like george bush sr. elected after reagan. do you see anything standing in her way if she decides to run politically? i ve always believed she s an absolutely qualified up person to be president. that s why i supported her the first time around. she s focused on finishing up her tenure of secretary state and letting this president go through his first term it. the question you asked about a third term is go that clearly historically political strategists look at. i don t think that s something specific to an issue for her. i think it s an issue for any democrat who is going through the list of pros and cons interested in running for office. let me ask you, you re an inside politician. do you think this was