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we ll spell that out later for you on the show. what have you heard from the white house about what is the point of purpose behind meeting with the pope? is it simply because the president s in rome? i think it s something it s interesting. we ve known g-20 was going to be here for several months. for longer than that. since the president took office, certainly. and there was no question when the president landed in rome, he was going to meet with the hope. he goes to church every sunday. he is a devout catholic. he s also very protective of his faith. he understands when it comes to abortion and reproductive rights, he s in a different place than the church. that is a problem obviously, particularly with particular catholics, conservative catholics, and where the vatican sits on this issue. white house officials make clear that this something he s discussing on a regular basis. two, what pope francis represents on several other issues, very much align with where the president is t

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