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including a husband. former president jimmy carter. and that is tonight s read out. inside with jen psaki starts now. i starts now. today something pretty extraordinary happened in the courtroom here in washington. lawyers for donald trump and lawyers from the special counsel s office former president should and should not be allowed to say what the criminal case against. the focus of this hearing was the limited gag order on trump. but when you take a step back, you can see that it was about much more than that. it was about how far the first amendment really should go. and how it should be applied to a former president who is also a criminal defendant, who is also a candidate for the presidency once again. the leading one at that. former general counselor for the arts stephensburg handled some very novel legal cases in his day. but never won like this. i am going to ask him all about it in just a moment. and as a new concerns about trump s ability to incite violence
today something pretty extraordinary happened in the courtroom here in washington. lawyers for donald trump and lawyers from the special counsel s office former president should and should not be allowed to say what the criminal case against. the focus of this hearing was the limited gag order on trump. but when you take a step back, you can see that it was about much more than that. it was about how far the first amendment really should go. and how it should be applied to a former president who is also a criminal defendant, who is also a candidate for the presidency once again. the leading one at that. former general counselor for the arts stephensburg handled some very novel legal cases in his day. but never won like this. i am going to ask him all about it in just a moment. and as a new concerns about trump s ability to incite violence continue to surface, former trump white house aide cassidy h will show it here in studio as well. but we do want to start tonight in th
Dispute. Now turning attention to the ron johnson letter if i may. Yes. On august 31st, Senator Johnson is getting ready to travel to ukraine on September 5th with senator with murphy. And he wanted johnson wanted the aid released so he calls the president and sought permission to be the bearer of good news. Right. The president said im not ready to lift the aid. They had this Senator Johnson, he writes a tenpage letter, very detailed, and he gives some remarkable detail and i would like to read it. Its on page 6. I this is Senator Johnson speaking, he said i asked him whether there was some kind of
arran arrangement where ukraine would take some action and the hold would be lifted. Without hesitation, Senator Johnson says, President Trump immediately denied such an arrangement existed and he started cursing. He said, no way. President trump said no way. I would never do that. Who told you that . And Senator Johnson goes on to say that President Trumps reactionnt here was adamant, vehe
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