heard of or friends of friends who you would not think of our soldiers joined the army. all kinds of people are doing, whether it is one here jobs, computer jobs, working on behalf of the country. i think they have shown they care a lot about maintaining their existence. you know, rachel, there s something is that a few minutes ago that really struck a bell, or rang a bell in my head. when you talked about this existentialist rhetoric, and this elimination s rhetoric, sorry, this is the kind of rhetoric that the russians used about the ukrainians. the ukrainians know it. so they also believe that they are fighting for their country. they know that when the russians takeover territory, they don t just take over buildings and land, they are murdering people, deporting people, raping women, and so for them it is an existential battle in which every centimeter of territory matters. for us in washington, or in paris, or london, it doesn t
interviews, and what s the point is of the way he is talking about things and who is he is talking to. i think that is an important lens for us to keep in mind when we are looking at these things. with that in mind, are you persuaded by his argument that enough weapons shipped quickly enough could make a determinative difference, could actually stop russia from taking over ukraine? yes, i believe we are at a very balancing moment, the ukrainians did chase the russians out of the northern part of the country they did resist the first attack on kyiv, they did use extraordinarily creative tactics. they showed that they need to fight, they want to fight, not just professional soldiers but the whole population, all kinds of people who i know or have heard of or friends of friends who you would not think of our soldiers joined the army. all kinds of people are doing, whether it is one here jobs, computer jobs, working on
ukraine? yes, i believe we re really, you know, we re at a very important balancing moment. you know, the ukrainians did chase the russians out of the northern part of their country, they did resist the first attack on kyiv, and they did use extraordinarily creative tactics, and they showed that they need to fight and they want to fight, not just professional soldiers but really the whole population, and friends and friends of mine, who you would not think of soldiers join the territorial army, all kinds of people are doing, whether it is volunteer jobs or computer jobs, working on behalf of the country and i think they show that they, you know, that they care a lot about maintaining their existence. you know, rachel, there s something you said a few minutes ago that really struck a bell, you know, rang a bell in my head, when you talked about this existentialist rhetoric and this eliminationist rhetoric, sorry, this is the kind of the rhetoric
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