and more comp hensley. andrea mitchell was talking about how paul whelan told administration officials from his prison camp in russia that the group has been recruiting soldiers from within russian jails. what do you make of that? well, it s true. it s crazy. i ve seen the videos of it. it s absolutely, think about how strange that is, right? this vogner group is a private military organizations and they re going into prisons. i think that is a real sign of desperation. you don t do that if you re winning the war. you do that if you re losing the war. so how do you think this continues? do you see an end in sight? i m not sure. i don t know. i know historically wars tend to end in two ways. either one side wins or there s a stalemate on the battlefield