of countermeasures. why did you not say those things? say those things? that is not howl would characterise say those things? that is not howl would characterise the say those things? that is not howl would characterise the situation. i would characterise the situation. the first thing is that i am not confident that by this cabinet meeting, i will have known that sage had concluded that containment was lost. and in fact, i don t think that i was told that for a number of days after. as i said, i m not exactly sure when i was told that. but this meeting was the morning after the minutes of sage coming to that conclusion. secondly, at this point in the department and nphet and the health service, we were working extremely hard to prepare for the pandemic. i had commissioned the action plan and work was under way on that and phe. we were attempting and pushing phe to build the testing system and all of the other things we were directly responsible for. as i say, we were
all of politics. it s a friends. we are having tributes from all of politics. it s a you friends. we are having tributes from all of politics. it s a you say - friends. we are having tributes from all of politics. it s a you say that - all of politics. it s a you say that he was a gentleman. was he a friend of yours? he was a gentleman. was he a friend of ours? ., ., . .,, of yours? no, we won t close friends- of yours? no, we won t close friends. but of yours? no, we won t close friends. but when of yours? no, we won t close friends. but when he - of yours? no, we won t close friends. but when he was - of yours? no, we won t close friends. but when he was in i of yours? no, we won t close - friends. but when he was in office, and i was a backbench mp, and a major issue, you always got a courteous and informed response. he was very much in command of his brief. we did not agree on many many issues, but our exchanges were never anything other than courteous and bus