attorney for kimberly guilfoyle who told us the subpoena is, quote, of no consequence to her because she has absolutely nothing to hide or to be concerned about. for the record, anderson, the committee declined to comment on the subpoenas. so, in your reporting, do you know why the committee s interested in kimberly guilfoyle and eric trump s phone records? so, we don t know yet. but it s my understanding the committee has made it a practice when it comes to issuing subpoenas, it s for a very specific reason. these are not just blanket requests for records. so as an example, there is no evidence that the committee reached out for call records for trump s other children, don jr., ivanka, or his son-in-law jared kushner. and just for context, i want to explain a call detail record we reported on this in the fall or a cdr. this gives the committee a phone log of the date, time, and length of incoming and outgoing calls.
with then-president trump. so, i think this is critical. these are four critical people that the committee wants to say we re going after you whether or not you comply. jamie gangel, appreciate it. let s drill down more on this, we are joined by cnn chief legal analyst, jeffrey toobin. former fbi deputy director, andrew mccabe. also, senior political correspondent, abby phillip, host of inside politics sunday. so, andrew, how significant could these call logs or or phone records be to the investigation? so, anderson, the records are exactly as jamie described them. they give you the incoming and outgoing numbers that were called from that person s account and the time of the time the calls went through and their duration. they are crucial in setting up a timeline of that person s contacts and communications. they don t tell you what they said but they tell you exactly when they talked to specific other people.
and possible future in-law that has already gotten results. cnn special correspondent jamie gangel broke the news tonight. joins us now. so who in the former president s family does the subpoena involve? so, anderson, according to multiple sources, the january 6th committee has subpoenaed and obtained phone records from two people very close to former-president trump. his son, eric trump. as well as kimberly guilfoyle who is engaged to his other son, donald trump jr. and as you pointed out, this appears to be the first time the committee has issued a subpoena targeting one of the trump children. it really underscores just how aggressive the committee is willing to be in its investigation. we reached out. eric trump declined to comment on the subpoena of his call records but a source familiar with his thinking tells me, quote, he s not losing sleep over it. we also reached out to an
accurate. it seems from the subpoenas that we ve seen come out of the committee so far, they are actually going after specific people, specific times, and and likely, specific conversations. so, i would expect that there was a fairly specific motivation behind these. but in truth, on the legal level, you don t you don t need that sort of specificity. and, jeff, now you got these new subpoenas for giuliani, sidney powell, jenna ellis. kind of the whole rose galley of attorneys. i just want to remind people of the caliber of arguments they were making in the early days of the big lie. let s watch. so we have mathematical evidence in a number of states of massive quantities of trump votes being trashed. just simply, put in the trash like you would on your computer with any file. and biden votes being injected. so that didn t happen. um, what do you make of i mean, even if they didn t cooperate, what is the point of doing this? well, because you you have
subjects really have no ability to delay which, of course, is such a big problem in this investigation. abby, just in terms of, you know, the politics, political impact, what could the fallout be to this, the fact the committee seized records pertaining to one of the president s sons? well first of all, i mean, i think these individuals are among the closest to former-president trump, and so it just highlights that the investigation is every everyone around him, including members of his own family. i was also struck because i think this is a a basic practice for in trump world. a lot of the things that president trump does, does not go through official channels. it goes through people who are on the outside. in fact, the first time president trump was impeached, it was because he was using outside channels to to allegedly conduct his effort to dig up dirt on joe biden. and so, it would not surprise me that these subpoenas that seem to be inching closer and closer