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important things. first of all, funding or money. and we also provided a great deal of consultnessy orioo consultancy or advice on the part of our federal law enforcement, as well as our military and intelligence community. and when you couple those things, marry them with colombia national police and military and other security forces, it was really a match that proved to be very formidable and continues to result in many, many successes with respect to dismantling organized crime and not only organized crime but terrorist organizations like the farc in colombia. jenna: obviously we talk about drugs being at the center of what these gangs are doing. this report about these smaller gangs and the violence almost seems like they re competing to be the most violent and the most gruesome rather than maybe competing for the drugs. only speculating here, but