to go through a months long fight against president trump. i think all signs point, yeah. it feels they re saying the collusion charge, they re getting softer on that because it is not a criminal charge. obstruction truly is. frank, jump in here. then i have another question for you. i was going to say, there is another gift you get when you press the subpoena issue, which is, you may get a very strong glimpse of how the courts will rule if you were to actually charge criminally a sitting president. they re related. it gives mueller strong indication of whether he could actually pursue criminal charges as to whether the court will rule on the subpoena issue. as we talk about the special counsel investigation, frank, somebody who has been caught up in the investigation will be sentenced later today. george papadopoulos who, of course, is at the root of where a lot of this investigation came from. his lawyers are asking for no prison time. lay out the odds, my friend. what are th
in charge of the russian collusion charge and that narrative could have laid the foundation for the special counsel. sean: let me go to the start of where this all began, because we don t believe, sarah, that it began as the left and the media has been advancing a narrative about george papadopoulos and the australian guy and meeting over drinks, and it just happened randomly. we believe it began way before, correct? yes, absolutely. i ve spoken with george papadopoulos wife simona and she testified before congress and she was emphatic before congress, she told me, through the questioning behind closed doors, that there were so many players coming at her husband, you know, from steven halper from great britain, to the professor, and all these people appeared to be giving information, trying to
it is also strzok leading the investigation when the fbi was in charge of the russian collusion charge and that narrative could have laid the foundation for the special counsel. sean: let me go to the start of where this all began, because we don t believe, sarah, that it began as the left and the media has been advancing a narrative about george papadopoulos and the australian guy and meeting over drinks and it just happen randomly. we believe it began way before, correct? yes, absolutely. i ve spoken with george papadopoulos wife simona and she testified before congress and she was emphatic before congress she told me through the questioning behind closed doors that there were so many players coming at her husband from great britain to the professor and all these people appeared to be giving information, trying to lure george papadopoulos in, trying to give information that
simply on what michael cohen may be saying now. i think they are going to need more. there if there is corroborating evidence that don jr. said anything about that meeting or in addition anything else that is not true he faces the risk of being prosecuted for making a false statement or possibly for perjury. the president is a father. you understand his concern for his son, lynn. sure. is there anything that the president i mean, just talking about it and being out there, he is actually, in some sense, do you think, making it worse for don jr.? no. because i think mueller and his probers just follow the trail. and i know, page, you talked about what seems to be a potential obstruction of justice charge. i think the exposure lies is that don jr. could speak to the collusion charge. whether or not the meeting took place, how it took place, and why it took place are very important we know it took place. are pieces of the puzzle. was it because it was not just
dossier and they were working with this woman who went into the trump meeting. if you are really stretching to prove the collusion charge as you were with the trump connection, it is an equally short stretch to the clinton campaign. i think any campaign that says they would love to help from the russian government tells you who they are but i would also say any patriot with you are republican or democrat, any patriot who loves america would be concerned and want to find out if a candidate for president was drawing themselves closely, politically, financially and personally. you think he is investigating the clinton campaign and connection to the russians? we should investigate any evidence of wrongdoing connected he is not investigating the hillary campaign and their connections to the russians, is that a mistake on his part? i think he should investigate crimes. the crime here