in charge of the russian collusion charge and that narrative could have laid the foundation for the special counsel. >> sean: let me go to the start of where this all began, because we don't believe, sarah, that it began as the left and the media has been advancing a narrative about george papadopoulos and the australian guy and meeting over drinks, and it just happened randomly. we believe it began way before, correct? >> yes, absolutely. i've spoken with george papadopoulos' wife simona and she testified before congress and she was emphatic before congress, she told me, through the questioning behind closed doors, that there were so many players coming at her husband, you know, from steven halper from great britain, to the professor, and all these people appeared to be giving information, trying to