what we re saying is this, the american people relate through tv and through stories and through human conflict and human emotion. if they see the manaforts of the world. the cohens of the world. if they see them get up and explain what s happened they re going to be riveted and it s going to change the polls. we have a very simple question here. we have a president that s disdainful of democracy and the congress in every single way and refused to cooperate or listen to them in anyway and respond to their subpoenas and he s also not just obstruction of justice which the mueller report details but it s also corruption. this is a president that today reported he made $479 million last year. revenue. but it s not right. the american people know it. we have 8 million people that
just ham-handed enough to be potentially, you know, a rudy giuliani signature move. you might think it s just clever enough to dangle it. it s very vague at this point, chris. and it s designed to be very vague. but obviously, what sdny is interested in is this dangling of pardons. we ve talked about it before. if that s what they have in mind in terms of sculpting his testimony, that would be an obstruction crime. if i can just briefly turn back to the other point, i agree with melissa, but i think the surmise here is probably, sekulow it s not just sekulow, by the way. it s abbe lowell, the attorney for ivanka and don junior. they may not know and remember, the draft they got, cohen has already said january. so there s a lot of edits. but if you look at sekulow s statement and cohen s, i think they re probably not directly to the timing. the real issue here is not what they knew and when they knew it, it s what cohen and trump and
about the trump tower moscow negotiations. more than 100 contacts between russian contacts and trump associates. no historical parallel. michael flynn serving as the national security adviser while u.s. intelligence believed he was potentially compromised by the kremlin. no historical parallel there. it s absolutely true. one parallel that relates to our earlier conversation about cohen is that john dean is the equivalent of two different john deans. he was fully cooperating with the president in covering up. he had an active role in it. and then he realized what was happening and said this is wrong. i have to try to stop this. and he did. and then he came clean. he was 100% truthful with us. and it s possible that there are two different cohens in the same way there were two different john deans. but this one is more scary because of the russian influence which is so obvious. and we can see it in everyday in
it s abbe lowell, the attorney for ivanka and don junior. they may not know and remember, the draft they got, cohen has already said january. so there s a lot of edits. but if you look at sekulow s statement and cohen s, i think they re probably not directly to the timing. the real issue here is not what they knew and when they knew it, it s what cohen and trump and others knew and when they knew it about legislate this go forward. it s quite possible that the lawyers were innocent here, but it wouldn t matter in terms of piercing the communications and learning about the knowledge of the other parties to the like trump junior, ivanka, and the president. and that brings us back to the questions that we know the president s already answered for mueller, which may pertain, i think they do, the ones we saw, materially to this. well, sure. but, again, while it doesn t really matter for purposes of the larger conspiracy, if you will, if the lawyers actually knew at the time, it does
with kim jong un because he is trying to distract from cohens testimony? it is inconceivable to me that this is not going to be a huge distraction for him. the need to come up with something spectacular to overshadow what we will hear on capitol hill today. is he attempted to give too much or claim too much in order to obscure what is going on here in congress? laura: remember, those are the experts. clearly again, none of that happened. the president walked away from the deal with kim because he was unwilling to back off sanctions in exchange for only kind of partial denuclearization. it would have been a bad deal for you and me, for the whole region. president trump: they were willing to denuke a large portion of the areas we wanted but we couldn t give up all the sanctions for that. so we continue to work it. we ll see. we had to walk away from that particular suggestion. we had to walk away from that.