one of his conversations with the president during which mr. trump come at us before the 2016 election, discussed paying off a playboy model who claimed to have had an affair with him. rudy giuliani today called cohen a scoundrel and senator lindsey graham, sometimes a president of the credit, sometimes a defender, told fox news yesterday that americans should be very suspicious of michael cohen. mr. cohen s attorney, lanny davis, refused to fire back tonight against the personal attacks, telling us here simply he declined to comment, concerning the matters possibly under investigation at this time. all of this happening of course, shannon, just ahead of the first trial resulting from the mueller probe. that a former trump campaign chairman paul manafort on bank and tax fraud charges. that begins tomorrow. don t expect this roller coaster ride to end anytime soon. shannon? shannon: right you are, jonathan.
what financing? you heard the words cash and check there. a dispute in typical washington fashion. two people can hear the same thing and hear wildly different things at the same time having credibly different interpretations. here is the president s attorney rudy giuliani. this is at most an attempt to do something. i don t know of any attempt in this category of crime that they re looking at. in any event, i don t think anyone can suggest that this represents anything where the president did anything wrong. for his part mr. cohen s attorney, lanny davis, a long-tim clinton attorney and advisor said he will call out giuliani for misleading people about what was said in that conversation. here is lanny davis this morning. i say to everybody who voted for donald trump, don t believe me, i m a democrat. listen to the tape. the words don t pay are not heard. the word cash, so it s not
lawyer would tape a client and suggest it was perhaps legal. cohen s attorney, lanny davis, responded by saying the trump team s legal strategy is, quote, false and flawed. so the question is, who leaked the tape s existence. joining me is danny cevallos, and harry litman, former deputy assistant attorney general for the clinton administration. gentlemen, great to have both of you with us on this. danny, if i may begin with you. i want you to take a listen to these stunning claims today from stormy daniels attorney, michael avenatti. watch. this is not the only tape, i can tell you that for a fact. there s multiple tapes. you don t know there are more tapes of president trump, though. no, i do know there are more tapes of president trump. there s multiple tapes of president trump, number one. the president knew that his attorney, michael cohen, had a predisposition towards taping conversations with people. and cohen had shared tapes with the president along the way during the te
that truth involves nothing that is negative or even worse for president trump? i m very confident of that. we all should be because mueller would not have given it away if it had any hope of producing evidence against the president. that was donald trump s personal attorney rudy giuliani resurfacing this weekend after weeks of silence. he appears to be baiting the president s former fixer michael cohen to go ahead, cooperate with investigators amid signals from cohen that he may be willing to flip on trump. cohen s new lawyer lanny davis firing back with a direct challenge to the president and his attorney. listen to this. he writes, did rudy giuliani really say on sunday shows that michael cohen should cooperate with prosecutors and tell the truth? seriously? is that trump and giuliani s definition of truth? trump/giuliani next to the word truth equals oxymoron. joining us now is barbara mcquade, former u.s. attorney now an msnbc contributor.
possession of mr. ryan. mr. cohen s attorney. he admitted to having possession of a copy of those recordings in court today as a result of our efforts, our position is simple. these roshdings should be released to the american people. not tomorrow, not next week, but and not next month but now. these recordings have a significant bearing on mr. cohen s potential criminal liability as well as the culpability of the president of the united states. it s not our fault mr. cohen was so dense as to record the conversations, many of them illegally and then retain copies of them. the truth needs to be laid bare. obviously people are allowed to have conversations. do you know for a fact that these conversations describe anything inappropriate? much less illegal? i know for a fact that one or more of these conversations do describe things that are