challenge for the president. mueller is saying you can t just walk away from us right now. you have to sit down. he s trying to do it in a cooperative way. robert costa of the west with that story breaking news about the president s attorneys being informed by robert mueller that the president of the united states is subject of his investigation but currently not eight electrical karth about the president giving an interview to his investigators. robert, thank you for breaking that story. i want to bring in jennifer rogers and renato marriotty, both former federal investigators. break it down, jennifer, what s the differences? a subject is someone who is of interest and you want to speak to but isn t someone who you have criminal evidence against who you re about to charge basically. so i m not surprised to hear that the president isn t a target on the collusion side of the house. i am a little bit surprised if the special counsel was so clear as to say he s not a target of my obst