so in this case the fact that the plane went down so quickly or whatever happened to it happened so quickly that we should have all the voice communication that the pilot and co-pilot had with each other, as well as radioed back to the air traffic controllers that they may not have received. so you ll hear everything that was going on in terms of what they were trying to deal with. then the data recorder which records over the whole flight, will be saying everything the airplane was doing, speed, altitude all of the information of the flight itself. but the cockpit voice recording is going to be very very important in this case. yeah. and the search for that continues. david gallow if you can talk about the timing here. there were mistakes made when we were talking about the march flight of mh-370. it really hurt the overall search. how key was the piece of debris that was found early on in the air france flight that went down flight 447 over the atlantic how key was it to
and down of the airplane and also the rudder is in that area. so this explains so much to me. because if the missile did impact right there at that spot, which by looking at this it did, it would have taken the whole tail of the aircraft off, which would have pitched the aircraft down immediately. mary? what do you see when you look at this aftermath? the same thing. it s very similar to kal 007. the missile didn t hit the plane. it exploded very close to the plane and took out the controls. even after that missile exploded at the shoot-down on that plane, they had both engines functioning and a little bit of cockpit voice recording after that. i think david might have hit it. mark, i want to ask you this. let s talk a little about the investigation too that are going to be going on for malaysian airlines. how do they deal with an investigation in a foreign country. it s different, quite different than on american soil. well, it s significantly
they re not allowed to record it. and if it s used at trial, you have to get a court order. so they re very protective of the cockpit voice recorder but they will play it for families in a closed room but probably not this early in an investigation. sure. and miles, when you look at this, no voices have been identified. what if they are not able to discern who is speaking in the cockpit conversation? it sounds like they may not be able to. well, it s a nugget of information but we do have to be clear on this, and the terms they use are very important. to call this a cockpit voice recording, that s not so. she s at the bottom of the ocean. nobody has heard that. we re never going to hear that. those are never played publicly. these are air-traffic control tapes. the quality is significantly degraded compared to the cockpit voice recorder. it can be very difficult to identify voices and who is talking, particularly if they have similar intonation. the only shred of evidence here woul
doesn t need to be longer than that. i ve always been in favor of a longer cockpit voice recording and i m record for having said so for many years now. but the pilots union is probably against because it means that all their conversations, private conversations, could indeed be monitored by management. it used to be half an hour, they ve now extended it to two hours which is an improvement. but as you quite rightly note here and this is what i m reading into it, is that there will be no lording, the critical period where the aircraft turned back. and if it was an encompasiencoe. we have no idea. alastair rosenschein, thank you for being with us. we appreciate your perspective. thank you. coming up on new day, understandably, we ve talked about the search and the assets.
that the news was that families were denied their request to hear the recordings from the cockpit to the air traffic control. they really wanted to hear those voices for themselves. they were denied that request. i want you to answer if that is standard operating procedure and investigation. and also i know that you feel that oftentimes the families can aid in recognizing voices on those recordings. that s right. it s not standard operating procedure. and, in fact, the united states, air traffic control tapes and correspondents are considered public record. they re released right away. in fact, you can apply the freedom of information act and get them. it s the cockpit voice recording that the actual voices are protect protected. and it takes a court order to use those in court. but the transcript on the cdr only is released. and yes, it s very important for people to listen. there are experts that make their living by interpreting what s those on tapes. many times, the public can he