you mentioned the closed session, which is an interesting part of this. judge, i want you to say with me as we get deeper into that, which is that notable aspect of how little of this impeachment so far we ve seen. take a look. george kent testified about the three amigos meeting in his deposition. in a closed door hearing. she is supposed to be appearing any minute for a closed door deposition. closed door, but some republicans said that s a problem. they want everything public immediately. chairman schiff will release most depositions as well as holding opening hearing, but for this opening round he s explaining why they re keeping it out of the public eye. there is a profound investigative not only interest but need to make sure that one witness does not have an opportunity to read another witness testimony and either hide the truth or color the truth. i m sure the white house would love nothing more than to be able to get their stories straight by hearing what these
that is not allowed with the impeachment about to close, it appears there will be no television coverage of any of the proceeding. get the cameras out of here, whatever those of us who work with cameras think about it, the judiciary committee did ultimately bring tv cameras back in to cover the final days of the debate, but it wasn t until the supreme court had forced nixon s hand turning over the watergate tapes and after key republicans on the committee decided and said they were going to push forward that you had this action. the closed door private hearings are clearly one effective way to do an impeachment probe. judge, i want to bring you in on that and ask you about the precedent and what you think is effective. well, i mean, it is making it look more like a grand jury, which is sort of what the house process is, you know. within a grand jury is not just a question of keeping each witness from copying the other witness testimony. we ve seen enough hearings that
and there was, besides the i don t know her , there was at least one big lie in there that s very obvious. president trump claimed the new ukrainian president didn t speak favorably about the ambassador in that phone call. the problem is it s in the actual transcript, and it wasn t s ukraine s president who didn t speak favorably of the ambassador. it was president trump. here he is from the transcript of the july 25th call. quote, the former ambassador from the united states, the woman was bad news, and the people she was dealing with in the ukraine were bad news. so i just want to let you know that. that s the president talking to the ukrainian president. he certainly seemed to remember her more than two months ago. today she certainly remembered him in her opening statement during today s closed door hearing, yovanovitch said she was recalled from ukraine after a, quote, concerted campaign against me. she said the deputy secretary of state told her she had done nothing wrong but th
during today s closed door hearing. yovanovitch said she was recalled from ukraine after, quote, a concerted campaign against me. she said the deputy secretary of state told her she had done nothing wrong but the president had, quote, lost confidence in me and the department had been under pressure from the president, unquote to remove her. she said this of rudy giuliani and the two men arrested yesterday. quote, i do not know mr. giuliani s motives for attacking me. but individuals who have been named in the press as contacts of mr. giuliani may well have believed their personal financial ambitions were stymied by our anti-corruption policy in ukraine. she actually was executing an anti-corruption policy, which is what the president claims he was really interested in when he asked the ukrainian president to go after the bidens. manu raju joins us from capitol hill. talk to me about the ambassador s deposition today. what do we know about what she said?
these questions. even though i think we know what the answers are, it s important for them to be laid out explicitly, and if sondland can t answer them because if he does perhaps he feels like it might incriminate people, that will be telling, too. it s crucial because it s almost a given that giuliani said this needs to be in that written statement, that the ukrainians put out. giuliani doesn t work for the federal government. why would that be the case, and answering that is critically important. this is a closed door hearing. that doesn t mean we won t hear about it since they have certainly been talking about what they ve discovered and unearthed in these hearings. david, abby, thank you both very much. so there s a new report just out, it says president trump has discussed giving all white house staffers a lie detector test. why would he do that? we discuss next. only tylenol® rapid release gels have laser drilled holes. they release medicine fast,