we always knew socialism, communism, totalitarianism reporter: many democrats who supported climate change agenda saw the rollout is absurd. i have read it and reread it and asked what is this? add up the promises it is clear it is unaffordable and unrealistic. reporter: some hope from the excesses of the green new deal more moderate voices emerge. the climate debate has been driven for years by the edges of each party. reporter: the chair and ranking member of the senate energy committee, fossil fuel states wishing for promising technologies like carbon capture and storage. responsible people like senators mccaskey and manchin, to enforce against the edges. we will continue to yell at each other. reporter: others question whether there is urgency at all. the 97% consensus of climate scientists is meaningless. john christie notes the greatest scientific breakers in history have broken with consensus. i take a hard look at climate
having a more aggressively unrealistic left edge to contradict the irresponsible right edge is not likely to create the kind of consensus that is necessary to have meaningful change. others question whether there is any urgency at all to the climate debate, that the so-called 97% consensus of climate scientists is meaningless. cly matologist, john christie, of the university of alabama, notes that the greatest scientific studies in history have broken with consensus. take a hard look at climate model output and can demonstrate they are too sensitive to carbon-dioxide and that the real world is not spiraling off into some dangerous territory of climate. novelest, michael creigton, once suggested this. he looked back to the last century when people didn t know what a computer, a jet phone, an
a professor of climate science at gothenburg university in sweden he joins us on the line i. hope you can hear me here are these kind of weather phenomena what we can expect to see in the future. well yes that s exactly what we see from the climate model is that we will have more extreme events occurring throughout this year in the warmer climate so what is causing this weather you know why is it so extreme hot and dry in some places flooding in others. well this depends on to some degree on the jet stream so we have this really big high pressure centered over. central europe priestess and going into asia and then we have the jet stream but kind of goes above scandinavia and in the i mean it s rainy and steering away the present the taste in the. weather from central european regions so this means when when you have these very stable condition you
effect. where you put your car in the sun 70 degrees outside you get inside it s 140 how did it happen. that s exactly what s happening with the atmosphere. the climate model that got the government so excited has been totally wrong so far. they are better than economic models. they are both bad. i object to that conclusion. why should we turn our lives upside down based on bad models? last time carbon dioxide i d was this eye in the past sea levels were 20 feet higher than they are now. that was back before humans existed. it will resume warmth. we don t care whether it warms a degree in the last 60 years. the it warmed a degree in the last 100 years. life expectancy doubled. a few degrees warming might be good. it might be depending where you are. cold waves kill more people than heat waves. how many tens of people died
i have no qualms about it, sean, i understand the subject very well. i understand that water vapor is the key to impacting the co 2 increase on global warming and the climate. and all of these climate it doesn t matter how sophisticated a climate model is, it is not a crystal ball. you could learn more about the climate by throwing a bunch of bones on the ground than you could by these models, they are computer models, something you can t predict the future of the earth with. they re all saying the co 2 is going to result in a very large increase in the temperature. and the way they do that is by assuming the increase in the water vapor which will come in a warmer world will magnify the effect of the carbon dioxide, when in fact they don t know