this adds to the mix as well as the sue gray, the senior civil servant investigation, now a police investigation, now a police investigation as well but what you think this means for the prime minister and his future? the first thin to minister and his future? the first thing to say minister and his future? the first thing to say is minister and his future? the first thing to say is to minister and his future? the first thing to say is to have minister and his future? the first thing to say is to have a - minister and his future? the first thing to say is to have a sense i minister and his future? the first thing to say is to have a sense ofj thing to say is to have a sense of proportion because when you hear the words met police investigation, criminal law breaking, downing street, it sounds incredibly dramatic and of course this is a big development in this story. but we are talking about the issuing of fixed penalty notices here. tickets as cressida dick called them, fines f
was about to say we were going to go back to the london assembly but i believe that has wrapped up so we can continue our thought process with you. you say we are expecting to hear from with you. you say we are expecting to hearfrom sue gray s with you. you say we are expecting to hear from sue gray s team imminently. it seems she was on the point of finishing her report passing it to the prime minister and others of course, is that really the possibility that might be shelved or at least put on hold while the police investigate? brute at least put on hold while the police investigate? police investigate? we are speculating police investigate? we are speculating it police investigate? we are speculating it now - police investigate? we are speculating it now and - police investigate? we are l speculating it now and filling police investigate? we are - speculating it now and filling the minutes until we get a word from her office but i suppose it is a possibility because ministers h
with the cabinet office team, even sometimes in the most serious cases, they will carry out an initial investigation and then hand us material. and they have access to all sorts of things because they know the systems, the way things work. and i am confident in the enquiry they have done. i don t like anything that can potentially damage public confidence, of course i don t. ,, , ., don t. studio: 0k, we have lost the image don t. studio: ok, we have lost the image of don t. studio: ok, we have lost the image of cressida don t. studio: ok, we have lost the image of cressida dick - don t. studio: ok, we have lost the image of cressida dick talking | the image of cressida dick talking but we have heard i think the key line from her, confirming that her officers are now investigating a number of events at downing street and whitehall for potential breaches of coronavirus restrictions. let s speak to our chief political correspondent adam fleming.
and there should be little ambiguity about whether this was a breach. and, of course, some of these instances we have heard about are a bit more ambiguous. well, was thatjust somebody having a glass of wine at their desk? and others seem to be less ambiguous. people coming together for what seems to be a long session of drinking and eating. i think there might be a clue in there as to which ones of these events might now be in the police s domain. the other question, well, why have you not been investigating, why have left it to the cabinet office? she tried to explain that, which was that the cabinet office are good at investigating and good at getting the evidence you need for this. e mails, messages, talking to the staff. actually better at getting that kind of evidence than a police officer, who would have to go through a lot of hoops in order to get that kind of evidence, because obviously getting through e mails of people doing sensitivejobs is quite a big deal
purpose. hence the four es approach. and of course we did issue tickets and we did enforce with some really flagrant breaches, but most people, as you all well though, responded very well to our engagement and changed their behaviour. we do have finite resources and even more so during the worst periods of the pandemic, when our officers fell ill as well as other people. and our view was and is that it would not normally be a proportionate, normally be a proportionate, normally be a proportionate, normally be a proportionate use of officers time to spend their time, bearing in mind the nature of the offences, after the fact investigating what could have been thousands of complaints. these are summary only offences. at the people who commit them to get a fixed