an argument we were having since this country was founded. on one side you have people who say america at its core is a white christian country. without that it isn t really america. on the other side you have the civic nationalism who says anybody can be an american no matter where they come from no matter their faith, color, creed. the entirety of american history is almost an argument between these two opposing camps and i think, you know, what we re seeing today, what we ve seen, you know, from barack obama to donald trump is that argument is still very much with us and very much a part of our politics. your piece today, it was long but i read it. it s very good, adam. your piece in the atlantic, you argue that white nationalism has deep american roots. here s part of what you write. you said the seed of naziism s ultimate objective, the preservation of a pure white
complicity of other folks? not just simply trump but other institutions? whether it be the congress, other institutions in producing this outcome. american institutions politically have become sclerotic. the importance of big money in being able to ensure that policies are not made to make something like infrastructure work, that our educational system is at the bottom of the oecd league tables, when we re by far the wealthiest country in the world. those are unacceptable and those are not just happene under trump but for a long time. technogy is the big piece that s changed becau 25 years ago we believe the technology empowered liberal democracies, that s why tunisia and egypt fell down and today it s not about the communications revolution, it s the data revolution. technology empowers big organizations and countries like china, authoritarians, while within our own liberal democracies, it s splitting us apart, it s unripping the fabric of civic nationalism.