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i think in the meantime, it s up to us to help them. 100% agree it is up to ukraine. my worry is that as the world watches and cheers them on, we get to a point where they are losing lives, i mean, i look at syria, tim. hundreds of thousands of syrians, brave syrians, died fighting assad. assad is still president, the world has moved on, and obviously, none of us want that to happen in ukraine. you re right to say it s their decision and they have been inspiring. you and i talked earlier this week on my peacock show about vladimir putin s propaganda that ukraine is not a real country or independent state. isn t it ironic that his invasion has made ukraine as a country more famous and admired the world over than ever before, where civic nationalism in ukraine has gotten a shot in the arm from their heroic defense of their cities and their frankly heroic president, volodymyr zelenskyy. there s deep irony here. mr. putin wants ukraine to be close to russia, but he invaded in 2014, the

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