house and from the irs, is not true. when they tell thus was only mapping in cincinnati and find out that it is not, that untruthful must certainly questions all of the answers we received both from the white house and irs on this issue. it gives us the importance of going poured. it is also questionable so many say this was not politically motivated. when you target people based on their political beliefs it is absolutely politically motivated. this certainly targeted conservatives and tea party groups and those of which trying to oppose the president and now we have an obama appointee involved in the chain of command here. we certain sly to continue and get to the bottom of this. i want to make clear some liberal groups say they were targeted as well. what do you have to say about that? george said the initial evidence he received did not indicate groups were targeted. that s something that came forward now as a possible offshoot. i think certainly it is suspect that it has b
introspective answers based on the testimony? where do you go from here? well, you are absolutely right. the testimony we received yesterday was instrumental and tying the washington, d.c., office and ultimately obama appoint he to the issue of how did this start, who did it, who orchestrated it. if you recall we were originally told by the irs and obama administration that these were a bunch of rogue agents in cincinna cincinnati. they testified this did not original mate in cincinnati, not a dotted line to washington, it is a solid line. mr. hall, as you said, testified further to say that it was higher-ups, including an obama appoint he who was orchestrating and directing the issue of the irs targeting american people based on their political beliefs. so that s william wilkins. certainly he knows a lot about tax law and he was in private practice. he actually did tax exempt work in terms of investigating the
offensive and absurd. we ve seen this play book from the republicans before. what they want to do when they re lacking a positive agenda is try to drag washington into a swamp of partisan fishing expeditions, trumped up hearings and false allegation. we re not going to let that happen. the president has business to do for the american people. republican leaders are piling on to criticize the administration and its handling of all the controversies that have cropped up in the last week. there is a culture of intimidation throughout the administration. the irs is just the most recent example. what we re talking about here is an attitude that the government knows best. the nanny state is to tell us what we do. if you criticize, you get targeted. this morning they re claiming they don t have all the fact. i think it s highly unlikely that a couple of people in cincinna cincinnati decided this was
unacceptable and let s find out more about it. it s highly unlikely, chuck, that a couple people in cincinna cincinnati, ohio, decided this is going to be the policy of the federal government and maybe even more unlikely that when the irs commissioner knew this a year ago that somehow nobody else knew higher than him in the government. if that s the truth, he should have been fired just for that reason alone. you ve been around washington a long time. you know the way the agencies can suddenly lock down. and suddenly decide they re going to protect their own entity here because they re fearing any outside influence. well, you know, been in washington a long time and the other thing that happens in washington is that what you do when you find out information can get you in a lot more trouble than the information you found out. so, hard to believe that after 25 years at the irs he decided, you know, i m just going to keep this to myself. equally hard to believe that last month when t
mi mid-level employees at the irs. lower level employees here in cincinnati, ohio, took this on themselves. not just some individuals in the low level at the irs. they don t make those kind of decisions. a person from that cincinnati office said, we don t do anything without direction here. here s what we do know. the white house was informed, of course, we learned this last week that the white house has counsel, the chief lawyer was told of this audit by of the irs by treasury on april 22 pd. now, what we don t know. she was told it was told that it was going to show agency employees were inappropriately targeting conserve groups. and they lacked evident that the targeting of conservatives was ordered by the white house, they still were out there suggesting the full facts aren t known calling the treasury department report just the beginning of the digging they intend to do. well, an audit is a